Samuel Fisher, Artist and Engraver

[Stumped!]

That looks definite enough to confute the idea that he was still active in 1855. I wonder if Maria, his wife, was not a Goodyear?

Hack..

Edward Goodyear was one of the executors mentioned in the will.
I should have seen it earlier..it's on the first page   

Peter

[Valda]

Hi


Edward Goodyear's will details

Probate was 24th September 1885 at the Principal Registry. He died 10th August 1885. His executor was Elizabeth Steward spinster.


This is a possibility for his baptism


EDWARD GOODYEAR 
Birth:  09 OCT 1799   Bond Street Baptist, Birmingham, Warwick
Father:  URIAH GOODYEAR 
Mother:  LUCY

URIAH GOODYEAR
LUCY BLAKEMORE   
Marriage:  25 DEC 1795   Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick


I can't see a family connection if there was one from this information.



Regards

Valda

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Valda

No, I can't see a connection, either.

Another executor was an Edward Banks, a button maker from Birmingham in the County of Warrick (?).

From what I can read of this will (print-through is making it difficult) it seems that Samuel had property in Birmingham as well as in London.

Peter

[Stumped!]

I have found it impossible to read this will despite messing about with photoshop for ages.

I emailed the National Archives and received a reply within 15 minutes.

They agree that it's pretty ropey and will re-scan it and let me know when it's ready. How's that for service?

Peter

[Valda]

Hi

The PCC wills in PROB11 are all copies of the originals copied into ledgers by the clerks of the PCC (in secretarial handwriting). The ledgers have all been microfilmed so can be produced electronically by The National Archives (the online index is for PCC wills and does not include administrations). The original wills are held by TNA in class PROB 10.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/research-guides/wills-and-probate-records.htm


Regards

Valda

[Stumped!]

Thanks for that, Valda.

I can see another entry in the archives relating to the death in Poplar in 1851 of someone of that name (reference MJ/SPC/E/4443) but I seem to go round in circles trying to access it 

Peter

[Valda]

Hi

That isn't a National Archives reference. Googling tells me it is from Access to Archives which is a website hosted by The National Archives where other archives put indexes for some of their records (when they had lottery money to do so which has since ceased)


The index for the record

All Saints, Poplar: Samuel Fisher: Sudden death in a fit  MJ/SPC/E/4443  [n.d.]


which is indexed from

Middlesex Sessions of the Peace: Court in Session [MJ/SPC/E/1300 - MJ/SPC/E/4600]
Coroners' papers: Eastern district  MJ/SPC/E  [n.d.]


and which archive holds the actual records

Held by London Metropolitan Archives


You must now either visit the LMA to view the actual record or contact the LMA for a quote from them to copy and send the record to you.


Regards

Valda

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Valda

Again... thank you for the information.

I'll get in touch with them after the holiday and see what transpires.

Peter

[Valda]

Hi


My concern would be your Samuel Fisher didn't live or die in Poplar


Deaths Mar 1851   FISHER  Samuel    S Lukes  2 247

It might be worth obtaining a copy of his death certificate first to see what he did die of and whether there was a Coroner's inquest


and the Middlesex inquests are all undated from a series that has a very wide time frame

Middlesex Sessions of the Peace, c 1350-1889


The LMA information leaflet on Coroner's records

http://217.154.230.218/NR/rdonlyres/B4AD8012-54EA-4A38-BD3D-273ABB331498/0/41CORONERSRECORDSFORLONDONANDMIDDLESEX.pdf


Regards

Valda