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Re: Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end
« Reply #27 on: Monday 25 October 10 08:33 BST (UK) »
Toni,

Sorry for not replying:

I did not think to look at tax records and tithe maps no, thanks for the advice.

We do know where he was selling books and have documents on this.

We know little of his life between birth and returning from sea in 1828 - do not know what ship/s he sailed on which makes searching difficult. I will contact the National Maritime museum, thanks.

My father has just managed to locate the Athaneum records but we have drawn a blank on the Whittingtonian ones.

It would be really good to find out so much more - one person suggests that Henry Rowsell is a cousin so will have a look at that.

Many thanks for all your help so far.

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Re: Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end
« Reply #28 on: Monday 21 July 14 17:02 BST (UK) »
Arriving very belatedly to this discussion which I've just found.

Toni wrote (Reply #21, October 2010) that Rowsell marriages with father Richard included 
"Charlotte Louisa Rowsell & Jabez Henry Sheldrake"

Charlotte was the oldest of the three siblings born to my 2xgt grandparents, RICHARD ROWSELL (who died in December 1860, aged just 33) and his wife, LOUISA MARY VERONICA PAULY (1817–1890).

The only census record for Richard is the 1851 when they were living at 2 Meadow Road, Newington, which states that Richard was born in Switzerland.
However, as it also states that Louisa was Swiss, and I have found her baptism record in 1817 in Lambeth, I wonder if perhaps he moved to Switzerland when very young (as did Louisa) and they just didn't know where he was born.
However, as a result, I have not as yet been able to track down the names of 'my' Richard's parents.

Charlotte was born in 1850 in St. Andrews Road, Newington, followed by my great-grandfather (Richard John) in 1856 in Surrey Street (now Davidge Street), Southwark, and Henry J  in 1858.

Their father died at 11 Elizabeth Place (now Princes Road), Southwark in December 1860 and is buried in Victoria Park Cemetery, Bethnal Green, Hackney.

In 1861 Louisa and her children were living at 78 Tower Street (now Morley Street) in the Borough of Southwark.

Charlotte married Jabez Sheldrake in 1867 at All Saints, Lambeth (which was later demolished when Waterloo station was expanded).

I know that this doesn't help solve the mystery of Joel but I hope that sharing what something about Charlotte might save unnecessary research time.

However, I'm now wondering whether there is perhaps a connection with Joel's family, though I doubt that going to sea would involve going to Switzerland.

Janice
Phillimore - Wiltshire / London

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Re: Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 15:06 GMT (UK) »
I now believe that my 3xgreat-grandparents were Richard and Sarah (nee Snook) as I have a good DNA match with a descendant of their daughter Sarah (1819-1874) who married John Warbey.

This means that my 2ggf Richard is the youngest brother of Joel, and was slightly older than I had previously thought.

The connection with Switzerland is that Richard's wife, Louisa Mary Veronica Pauly (1817-1890), was the daughter of the Swiss inventor, Samuel Johann Pauli (aka Jean Samuel Pauly - see his entry on Wikipedia which I have augmented greatly). I think this must have caused some confusion when the 1851 census was taken.

I now also have Sarah (nee Snook)'s death certificate - she died on 27 Oct 1840 in Edmonton, and her husband had predeceased her.
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Re: Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end
« Reply #30 on: Monday 10 March 25 20:16 GMT (UK) »
I posted this quite a few years ago now! Wondered if anyone can find anything else that could help us? Still cannot find any maritime records.