Joel Rowsell - have hit a dead end

[Eyesee]

All Saints Edmonton
1808 Jul 17, George, s/o Richard & Sarah ROWSELL, Silver street, Labourer, born Feb 12
1809 Dec 3, Henry, s/o Richard & Sarah ROWSELL, Fore Street, Gardener, born Oct 11??
1814 Jul 17, Thomas, s/o Richard & Sarah ROSEWELL, Fore St, Gardener, born 1814 Jun 7
1816 Feb 18, Mary Ann, d/o Richard & Sarah ROWSELL, Fore St, Gardener, born 1816 Jan 20
1818 Jan 16, Louisa, d/o Richard & Sarah ROSEWELL, Fore St, Gardener, born 1817 Dec 15
1820 Feb 9, Sarah, d/o Richard & Sarah ROSEWELL, Church St, Gardener, born 30 Sep
1825 Jan 25, Richard, s/o Richard & Sarah ROWSELL, Bury St, Gardener, born 1824 Dec 23

Henry, as a widower marries 14 Aug 1853 at Hackney St John to an Emma IVES. His father is listed as Richard ROWSELL, Gardener. His first wife was Lucy FISHER and they were living at Bury Street.

Burials at All Saints Edmonton
Sarah ROWSELL, 2 Nov 1840, from Bury St, aged 60.
Richard ROSEWELL, 17 Dec 1832, from Bury St, age 53.
Louisa ROSWELL, 7 Dec 1832, from Bury St, age 15.
Lucy ROWSELL, 2 Jan 1846, from Bury St, age 36 - Henry's first wife
Louisa ROWSELL, 28 Jan 1838, from Bury St, age 5 - Henry's daughter

Sarah married 17 Jul 1842 at West Hackney to John WARBEY, her father being Richard ROWSELL, Gardener

Ian C

[ShaunJ]

Apparently Joel's executrix Elizabeth Farrant was the mother of his son Charles Frederick

http://www.bbcwhodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=4528&hilit=&sid=0dbec4977b4402b7ccf472b1dc9e41eb

[toni*]

I wish they would tell us all they know when putting up a request saves repeating things 

[toni*]

Rowsell marriages with father Richard
John Rowsell & Emma Hare 18.12.1878
Henry Rowsell & Emma Ives as previously mentioned
Charlotte Louisa Rowsell & Jabez Henry Sheldrake

[Mauritius123]

Thank you to all of you for your help I feel that we are getting somewhere.

When was the first census to be published? Was it 1841.

Any ideas on how we would see what he did prior to 1828 whe  he returned from the seas and became a book seller?

[Daisy Loo]

There is a Richard ROWSELL, born 1783 in Somerset, whose father was Amos ROWSELL, born 1761 in Somerset, and who is a brother to the Joel born 1764. Quite possible this Richard is the one who married Sarah SNOOK in 1805 and the father of Joel the Bookseller

Joel born 1764 was a Nurseryman in Enfield and died there in 1844.

From a tree on A******Y

Ian C

There is a will for the Joel who died in Enfield on TNA : http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a5i/ - could provide info on the earlier family?

[toni*]

the first census was taken actuallyin 1801 but was just simply a population count these records do not survive there were further census taken in 10 yearly intervals but the first one to survive nearly in full is the 1841 census and this is the first one that listed peoples names and ages albeit rounded down.

so you already know he returned from sea in 1828 i wish you would tell us all you know to save us duplicating or wasting time searching have you looked at records at NMM to see if they can help with his seafaring record?

have you looked in directories to see where he was if he was selling books it is likely he would be listed

have you looked at tax records and tithe maps ?

[ShaunJ]

This bookseller Henry Rowsell must surely be a cousin !
 http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=5813&&PHPSESSID=ychzfqkvzape -

[toni*]

mauritis123 you havent answered any of my questions