John Blosset, Rathgar

[dermo]

I'm looking for help in getting information on John Blosset, who may be one of my great great grandfathers.  What I know is that he died in August 1832 and is buried in Goldenbridge Cemetery.  In November of that year Eliza Blosset, who I assume was his wife or sister, was buried in the same grave.  I have the burial record from the Glasnevin Trust website but the entries for that period give very little information.  His address is shown only as Rathgar.  From family information, it seems he may have been a property owner.  I have references to his leaving two houses in Harold's Cross, ground rents in Wharton Terrace (where is that?) and "the house and premises at Rathgar" in trust for his daughters.

Can anyone advise how best to follow this up?

Regards

Dermo   

[Kalishoek]

Wharton Terrace is in St Peters in Dublin
Overall only 6 churchrecords  for the Blossets but no John Blosset
See here http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name=Blosset&location=&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search

[dermo]

Hi Kalishoek

Thanks for the information.  I guess some, at least, of the Blosset's you found could be related.  As far as I can find on the web, Blossets (originally De Blosset) came to Ireland in the 17th century.  I'm not sure if that means there might be lots or few of them.  I will continue to explore. 
On Wharton Terrace, do you have any information on where in St Peters it is or was?  Is/was it a terrace of houses on a named street or is/was it a street in its own right?

Regards

Dermo

[shanew147]

There's a Wharten/Wharton Terrace on Harold's Cross Road - near the canal bridge and almost opposite Greenmount Mills. It looks like it runs at right angles to Harold's Cross road.

See the OSI maps : Wharten Terrace, Harold's Cross

The same structure seems to be present on the 1890s 25" map (where it's labelled) and the 1st edition 6" maps 1820/40s.

It's also listed in a Thom's 1879 Co. Dublin Street index as being off Harold's Cross - see : link

The street is still present as an entrance to a business park - but the old buildings are not..


Shane

[dermo]

Shane

Thanks.  That's very helpful.  Seems that most of his properties were in Harold's Cross. 

Dermo

[dermo]

Hi

In John Blosset's will he left his property to one of his executors, Mary Kavanagh, for her use during her lifetime and, at her death, to his two children.  In the meantime, she was to provide for the support and education of the children.  He died in 1832 and his will was probated in 1834.  Mary Kavanagh died in 1855 or 1856.  What I would like to know is whether there would be a record in the Land Registry or Registry of Deeds of the transfer of the titles of his properties to Mary Kavanagh after his will was probated and of the transfer  to Blosset's surviving child on Mary Kavanagh's death.

Dermo

[Quaxer]

Dermo

Look in the names index  and also the place index from say 1800-1860 in nthe Registry of Deeds. Land Registration  i.e. registration of ownership did not start in Ireland  until 1865 and was not really effective until 1891.
The pre 1830 index of places may be difficult to work with but stick with it as it sometimes contains matter not in the names index.

Quaxer

Ps. The Registry of Deeds provides for the registration of documents (not ownership) to give notice of existence to the public at large.

[dermo]

Quaxer

Thanks very much for the advice. I guess a visit to the Registry of Deeds when next in Dublin is the next move.  I'm finding great difficulty in tracking down information on John Blosset even though the name is unusual and he was a property owner.  I'm trying to establish his relationship to my great grandmother Maria Blosset.  He died in 1832 and she was born around the same time (I have 1831 to 1833 for her birth year from the 1901/1911 censuses and her burial record).  He could be either her father (just) or grandfather.  I have found some tantalising references - his will, his burial record, some possible press references - but not much real information beyond that.  I'm hoping the completion of the Dublin records on irishgenealogy.ie next month may help but I would welcome any other suggestions from more experienced researchers.

Dermo

[dermo]

I'm reviving this old thread in the hopes that someone may have some suggestions as to how I might surmount the brick wall I have encountered with this gentleman.  I explored the Registry of Deeds and found what I think may be the record of my great grandmother Maria Blosset selling property in Harold's Cross which eventually came to her when John Blosset's executrix Mary Dowdall (nee Kavanagh) died.  I also discovered that the Eliza Blosset I mentioned in the original post was John Blosset's daughter, not his wife or sister.
Beyond that, I have found nothing.  The church records on irishgenealogy contain the baptismal record of Eliza Blosset and the baptismal records of five of Maria Blosset's children, including my grandfather, but no sign of any baptismal or marriage record for John Blosset.  Not knowing his age at death in 1832 I don't know when, or indeed where, he was born though I imagine it must have been in the second half of the 18th century - a time for which church records are scarce - and mosty likely in Dublin.
What I am wondering is whether there are any other records for the late-1700s/early-1800s that I might explore before I give up.  I would welcome any suggestions.