Author Topic: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)  (Read 41808 times)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #45 on: Monday 25 October 10 08:30 BST (UK) »
What a shame he didn't write down what Granny Sheppard told him in the diary  :( I'm sure he must have thought he really was a Bryceson - why would he think otherwise unless someone told him?

This is the extract from Mary Sanigear's will. I'm sure it's Eliza Ireland, but working out which Eliza Ireland it is is the problem.



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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #46 on: Monday 25 October 10 23:45 BST (UK) »
While reading the interesting story of John Bunyan and his descendants in waiteohman's second link at #8 of this thread, I was struck by this excerpt:

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The vault beneath the tomb that bears his name, is that of his friend Strudwick, a grocer on Snow Hill, at whose house, after his journey to Reading, he was taken ill - and perhaps he died there.

From Nat's entry for 15th March:

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After dinner took walk alone to Bunhill Fields Burial Ground to see (not the first time) the tomb of John Bunyan.  While there fell into conversation with an elderly lady who came on the same errand, and from her learnt that there is now living an old lady, a descendant and the last remaining of that great man

Perhaps Nat saw the name Strudwick on the tomb, or heard it from the old lady he met there, and confused it in his mind with the descendant's name, turning it into Skirricker???

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 01:06 BST (UK) »
Perhaps Nat saw the name Strudwick on the tomb, or heard it from the old lady he met there, and confused it in his mind with the descendant's name, turning it into Skirricker???
Didy

Um, not sure about this Didy ...  :-\ I can't see Nathaniel getting too confused about anything.  ;)

I think it's more likely that the old lady Nathaniel met told him the wrong surname or was unsure of it herself.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 01:10 BST (UK) »
I see a pattern emerging with Nathaniel's diary entries.

What is happening in his life on Monday and Tuesday that he either has no time, has nothing to say, or can't be bothered writing his diary?

It is most inconsiderate of him to keep us all waiting like this.  ;)


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #49 on: Thursday 28 October 10 01:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carole it looks like Ireland to me too.

I did like the Elizabeth Ireland with the Johnson's as Frances Brown, a known Bunyan descendant married a William Johnson. Age 15 too young though.

We do know Rev. Samuel Francis Creswell visited Mrs. S and he was the Vicor of Radford. Knowing this I would definitely say Mrs S. went to live with her niece in Lenton.

1851 Reg District: Radford, Sub-Reg District Lenton
89 Wollaton St.
John Ireland head 60 lace maker Willoughby, <Waterless?>, Leichester
Elizabeth Ireland wife 60 Lenton, Nottinghamshire
Emma granddaughter 6 Lenton
+ 3 lodgers
Dorman, Waite, Moore, Clark/Clarke, Neil, Rennie/Rainey, Brown, Mclean, Day, Millar/Miller, Gunion/Gunzion, Thomson, Black, Milvain, McCubbin, Steadman, Kirby

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #50 on: Thursday 28 October 10 10:06 BST (UK) »
Anyone able to explain today's reference to people using "links" as a result of the fog? I did try googling, but the problem is that on 99.99% of web pages the term "links" is only used in the context of links to other web pages, which makes trying to find anything relevant a little frustrating.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #51 on: Thursday 28 October 10 10:12 BST (UK) »
I asssumed it meant that people were linking arms to find their way  :-\
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
Hogg - Manchester 19 cent
Anderson - Newcastle mid 19 cent
Boullen - London then Carlisle then Manchester
Comer - Manchester and Galway

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #52 on: Thursday 28 October 10 10:23 BST (UK) »
I asssumed it meant that people were linking arms to find their way  :-\

I never even thought about that.  I guess it's a perfectly reasonable thing to do in the circumstances, although if that's the case then the way Nat worded it is confusing, since effectively it's the other person you're using rather than the link itself.  But maybe that was how they said it back then.  It's been a long time since the fog here was serious enough to need to discuss such things (although as with the frozen Thames, Id love to go back just once and experience it for myself.)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 8)
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 28 October 10 10:44 BST (UK) »
Found this. If you look for links they seem to be some type of torch.
http://www.victorianlondon.org/weather/fog.htm

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