William Hill died NZ c.1868 from Glasgow and prior to that AberdeenshireCOMPLETE

[VDLstories]

hello

I am trying to locate a ggg grandfather William Hill, whose wife was Helen Hill and daughter Helen Hutton Hill married a Great Great Grandfather  John Mc Gough in Glasgow in 1875.

WILLIAM HILL    m   HELEN MCFADYEH/N 
Their daughter HELEN/ELLEN HUTTON HILL born 1848 - d. 17 May 1920

In an 1878 application in Glasgow daughter Helen  Mc Gough [ nee Hill]  said her father had died in New Zealand ten years ago.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to locate William Hill in NZ with this scant information?

Many thanks
Julie [Tasmania]

[Canterburynorth]

Hi Julie,

There are are no William Hills with the death date 1868, but there are a couple for 1869 and 1866.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3ddeaths#SearchResults

Will keep looking

[Thamesite2017]

The 1866 one is one month old

1869 is WILLIAM CHANNON HILL died Christchurch

Bye
Althea

PS. always possibility he didn't die then..rather chose not to return?

[VDLstories]

Hi and thanks very much to Althea and Leandra

Yes the '10 years earlier' than 1878 is a bit cryptic - does that indicate  strictly 1868 ?? [I suspect not] 

 also yes to the thought perhaps he didn't die but remarried, or chose to let those in Scotland think he had died etc.

It is quite a  mystery at present.

I will seek his widow Helen Hill [nee MacFadyen's] death cert. 

These are her birth details:
MACFADEAN, HELEN YOUNG (O.P.R. Births 692/002 0190 0013 LEITH SOUTH) 256Kb

No 73
MacFadean
David  Macfadean, marble cutter, Leith, and Margaret Dickson, his spouse, have recorded, for Baptism a lawful daughter born 20th Jannary and baptized 22 February 1830 and named Helen Young.

Here are details form the 1878 record which mentions William Hill as in / died in NZ:

NO C220Z8
Hour and date of application: 11.20am 4th February 1878
Name of Applicant: John McGough
.........
Names and ages of dependents: wife Helen Hill aged 28 year born in Drygate, housewife, a protestant, assists her husband............
..............
Wife’s parents, William Hill, was a House Factor died in New Zealand 10 years ago and Helen McFadyen, housewife, married to Archibald McKellar a Porter in a Tea Warehouse, resides in Clyde Terrace, Bridgeton.

so, Perhaps William didn't die, but was termed 'dead' [ in NZ],  so his wife could remarry Archibald McKellar ?

Julie

 

[Canterburynorth]

Hi Julie,

Still looking for your William, do you know roughly when they came to NZ? Some of our cemetery records have 'years in NZ' on them, and do you know if Helen was the only child. Out of curiosity what is a House
Factor

Regards
Leandra

[VDLstories]

hi Leandra

It looks like only William Hill went to NZ from Scotland and not sure when !? but he apparently  died c.1868 in NZ and his wife Helen Hill remarried in Scotland.

I know this isn't much. A House Factor is a real estate agent.

bye again
Julie

[spades]

Have you made any progress with your hunt for William HILL?

spades

[Kiwiliz]

William Channon Hill, died in Christchurch, NZ on 17 October, 1869.  Check out "Paperspast" nz for the newspaper announcement.  One of his sons became a solicitor who married my great grand aunt.  she died relatively young and 9 years later Charles, William's son, disappeared on a business trip to Wellington and was never traced.  He had left his business affairs in a mess, owed many thousands of pounds and was adjudged bankrupt post his disappearance.  His son, Charles, was wounded in  the first world war and returned to NZ, became a solicitor and then migrated to Australia.  I have a photo of Charles the son.  There were two daughters, one of whom was a nurse.