US Federal Census 1930 Look up please

[LaineyB1964]

Hello,

I am trying to find a Samuel Amos Davies, born in Glamorgan Wales around 1873. He arrived at Ellis Island in 1909 aboard the Lucania. According to the Ships manifest this was his 2nd visit to USA as he had travelled before around 1886-1888 to Plymouth Pensylvania. Not sure how true this would be as he would have been a very young child in the 1880's and also he can be found in the Welsh census from 1881 up to 1901. I think I may have found him in the 1920 census living and working at the Manhatten State hospital and working as an attendant.

Having visited the local Records office on saturday I found a record for Samuel Davies in 1930 but discarded it. I now realise that this was probably the Samuel I have been looking for. He was a monumental stonemason by trade and this is stated in the 1930 federal census. I think the record was for the New York area.

Please could somebody try and find this record for me and any information relating to him. He had a wife and family in Wales but I believe he left them, emigrated to USA and remarried and had another family there. I would be so grateful of any help with this census record. Have to go to work in a bit but will pop back later. Thanks in advance.

Lainey

[osprey28]

HI

There is one who looks like he could fit:-

Samuel Davies aged 59 Bn Wales - came to US in 1888 - living at 351 Bronxville Road, Yonkers, Westchester NY on 1930 census.

Wife Estelle 50
kids:-
Lister 26
Ethel 21
Harvey 19
Ruth15
Father in law Oscar Phillips 79

Samuel's occupation given as superintendant buildings.

Hope this helps

Osprey

[shellyesq]

That Samuel appears to be in Yonkers in the 1920 Census too, so if the one you found in Manhattan in 1920 is correct, the one in Yonkers in 1930 probably isn't him. 

For the Samuel who was in Manhattan in 1920, he is listed as being born in the US.  However, since the information may not have come directly from him, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it were wrong. 

I don't see any other likely options for 1930 in the New York area.  Do you know anything about how many children he had or if he had any other relatives in the US?

[LaineyB1964]

Thank you so much Osprey for taking the time to look for me. I am not sure if this is the right one though. I know that Samuel was a stonemason and I did find a record for a Samuel Davies Stonemason. I was thinking it was in New York but I could be wrong. The problem is there are so many Samuel Davies, born Wales in the US census after 1909. Oh how I wish I had taken more notice of the record when I found it, I just did not realise the significance until I spoke to a relative the other day who told me of the stonemason connection and then I put 2 and 2 together. I think I will have to go back to the records office and spend a bit of time trawling the records again.

Thank you

Lainey

[LaineyB1964]

Shellyesq, Thank you for your comments. I know that Samuel Davies had connections with Plymouth and Carbondale Pennysylvania. According to the Ellis Island Ships manifest record he arrived at Ellis Island with a relative called John Skyrme and friend William Tewkesbury. They were going to 74 Washington Street Carbondale to visit a friend called John Walsh. The record states that Samuel had visited the USA around 1886-1888 and been to Plymouth PA. I had a feeling that the census record I found was in New York but I could be wrong. I will have to try and get back to the records office and look thru more ancestry records. Thank you so much for your help.

Lainey

[osprey28]

Hi Lainey

I looked up the Samuel you found working at the State Mental Hospital in 1920 – although he does fit in age it states that he was born in the US – but that his father was Welsh.  He was also single in 1920 (according to the census return). Can't find this guy in 1930.

Regards

Osprey

[LaineyB1964]

Thank you Osprey. Not sure now if this is the Samuel I was looking for. Will have to do more research and investigation. Thank you for taking the time to help.

Lainey