Williamson Port Glasgow

[MonicaL]

From the same link above, there are a couple of possibilities for your William's birth, including:

William James Williamson, 3rd Qrt 1895, Vol. 2 Pg. 144 in Londonderry.

Monica

[carolmcg]

Thank you for all your help I will go and have a look now

EDIT: Thanks for all your help it does looks like it might be them but sadly I can't get the certs online.
I can't find a death cert for Charles or his new wife on Scotlands people so it looks like they might not have come over as a family which still leaves me with a "charles williamson" buried in the Port that I can't account for - no deaths on Scotlands people for infants that could have possiblybe Williams son.

Guess I am going to have to give this up which is sad when I managed to get my own line so far back.

[carolmcg]

Possible marriage for a Margaret (Maggie) Harper and a Charles Williamson in 2nd Qrt 1892 in Londonderry. Both entries show with the same refs.: Vol.2 Pg. 155. See here for details on entries http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

Monica

Just got the cert for the wedding it gave me a few more details allowing me to find the Harper side of the family on the census returns. Margarets father was Hugh Harper (labourer)
Sadly not as much information as the Scottish certs but it did tell me that Charles Williamsons father was  Robert Williamson and he was noted as a "taylor" under occupation.
The address given for Charles was Spencer Road Derry but I was not able to find anything further using the census returns or family search.
Ideas of where to go now would be welcome.........I am not even sure of the mothers names

[MonicaL]

With the info you have now from the marriage entry, how about this 1901 census entry for the Harpers and Maggie's family www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Bonds_Place/1539654/ - helps that it potentially shows the link to Williamson with a grandson Robert Williamson showing in the household...also the address links up with the 1901 Williamson address.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Again, given the occupation of Robert Williamson in son's marriage cert, how about this entry in 1901 on the Williamson side for his parents www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Mountcastle/Stranabrosny/1750776/ Would fit well with Charles showing as born in Co. Tyrone.

Something to work from on both families hopefully 

Monica

[carolmcg]

Thank you Monica!
I found the Harper side of the of the family last night and thought it was the right one with the grand child being Williamson.

I was wondering if there is a way of checking census returns for other years in Ireland?
Do you think that Eliza would be short for Elizabeth ?
Sorry I am asking way more questions than I aught to - maybe one day I will be able to return the help that you have given me.

[aghadowey]

The first complete census for Ireland is 1901- only fragments of earlier ones survive (for Co. Londonderry only 1831 which lists head of household and number of males and females in household).
Both 1901 and 1911 are available (free) online- www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search

[MonicaL]

Eliza is most likely short for Elizabeth but she will probably show as either on different registrations. This is a great website for first name variants www.whatsinaname.net which is always worth a look.

Ask as many questions as you need to Carol - that's what great about RootsChat 

Monica

[carolmcg]

Thanks for all your help

I did manage today to get one answer from my first post.

I called Inverclyde Council and asked about the lair at Port Glasgow cemetery and then were brilliant giving me the information I needed so I now know that the Charles Williamson buried there was infact the brother of William James  (child of Charles Williamson and Margaret Harper).
He had died in Glasgow and the death registered there although he was living with his brother at the time in Port Glasgow and the person listed on the death cert was his younger brother George Williamson c1900 and at the time (1957) he was still living in Waterside Londonderry although I could not read the street address on the cert.

Finding the Irish side of the tree very hard as I can find nothing else about the family on-line but have added these details in the hope someone might come across the post at some point - so strange that I can find no one else researching the same family.