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Re: Ellis birth lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 18 October 10 11:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Could some one look for 1909-1909 births for all the alice ellis' (my great grandma) born in that time in sheffield a& eccelsall please?. Id love to be able to go back furthur with this side of my tree but i need to find her birth first.

Ive checked on free bmd but im wondering if there are more births (on Genes Reunited/ancestry etc as i dont have a full membership) than the ones listed incase im missing any to check.

On free bmd they have:
alice isabel ellis march 1908 eccelsall
alice ellis june 1908 eccelsall (i think i have the cert for this one also)
alice irene ellis sept 1908 eccelsall
alice ellis march 1909 (ive ruled this one out as i bought the cert)

thanks
Becky

Hi Becky

Try contacting Sheffield & Hull libraries and ask their advice. Newspapers may have an article on the wedding with people who attended it. Also Sheffield may have electoral registers of the fathers address and birth entries. Then contact Sheffield Register office with all your known facts to see if they can identify the right birth.
If you can find the right mothers maiden name Dewstow or Scales from the 1901 or 1911c being Albert Edwards wife's first name.

Then you have the mother miaden name
Marriages Dec 1897
 
Dewstow  Bertha    Sheffield  9c 947   
Ellis  Albert Edward      Sheffield  9c 947   
Foster  Robert John     Sheffield  9c 947   
Scales  Annie     Sheffield  9c 947   


In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Ellis birth lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 18 October 10 21:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks. This is the family i was thinking was actually thinking was Alice ellis' though on the 1911 census (as my mum said she remembers alice had a sister and she thinks she was called mable)

ELLIS, ALBERT ED HEAD MARRIED 14 M 36 CARTER SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, SARAH ANN WIFE MARRIED 14 F 33  PICKERING YORKSHIRE     
ELLIS, SUSANNAH DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 11 SCHOOL SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, VIOLET DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 7 SCHOOL SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, ALICE DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 3  SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, MABLE DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 4 MONTHS  SHEFFIELD


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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19 October 10 01:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks. This is the family i was thinking was actually thinking was Alice ellis' though on the 1911 census (as my mum said she remembers alice had a sister and she thinks she was called mable)

ELLIS, ALBERT ED HEAD MARRIED 14 M 36 CARTER SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, SARAH ANN WIFE MARRIED 14 F 33  PICKERING YORKSHIRE     
ELLIS, SUSANNAH DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 11 SCHOOL SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, VIOLET DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 7 SCHOOL SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, ALICE DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 3  SHEFFIELD     
ELLIS, MABLE DAUGHTER SINGLE  F 4 MONTHS  SHEFFIELD


Becky


Hi Beckey
Then the 1897 marriage is ruled out in Sheffield
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Speculation only

Hull and Pickering
This is what I have found in UK BMDs and  Freebmds

1911c says Sarah Ann wife of Albert Ed Ellis was born in Pickering that is near Hull (ish)

From UK BMDs
ELLIS Albert DOBSON Sarah A 1896 St James (Hull) Yorkshire Hull SJH/8/269

(below are same marriage or 2 seperate  marriages ?)

from Free BMDs

Marriages Jun 1896   
DOBSON  Sarah Ann     Hull  9d 414   
Ellis  Albert     Hull  9d 414

Marriages Jun 1896   
DONSON  Sarah    Sheffield  9c 865   
Ellis  Albert     Sheffield  9c 865

Aice Ellis b 1908 Mother Sarah Ann Dobson or Donson ?? from born Pickering!

Puzzler 

Births Jun 1879 Dobson Sarah Ann Hull 9d 243

Enough too ask Sheffield reg office if they have a Alice Ellis born 1907 to 1909  born with a mother Sarah Ann Dobson


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In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth