William Mathew ROWE moved from Cornwall to Australia...

[deeiluka]

Nothing on the records I'm checking to say where he is from, but later I can check elsewhere. I'm going to have to take a break for a bit.


The children I listed for a William ROWE and a Jane LAWES  have married in South Australia, and their father is listed as William Matthew/Mathew/Matthews ROWE in the marriage index.

It also appears that there were more children whose births I haven't yet found.  I'll have another look for you.


 
Dee    

[Smitham]

Yes, i am about to switch off too, the only chld i only know about of william mathews is henry stanley, he married eva mary maunder who was born in new zealand and both henry and eva died in New Zealand so i assume Henry moved to N.Z and met eva here. Henry is my great grandfather.

Goodnight
Antionette

[krisesjoint]

Hi Antionette,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat 

This information is from the Biographical Index of South Australians (In part of a submitted nature but often very helpful to SA researchers)

ROWE Wm Matthews parents John and Maria born 10 Feb 1829 St Paul Cornwall and died 18. Jul 1906 Mintaro SA He arrived in 1855 aboard the JOHN BANKS 0ccupation Blacksmith residence Mintaro religion Wesleyan Methodist
married 1. 21 May 1853 Cornwall to Amelia nee MATTHEWS. Her parents were Joseph and Mary She was born Feb.1829 Cornwall and died 29 Apr 1872 Mintaro SA
children Maria 1854, Rosella 1856, Robt 1857, Joseph Jas 1859, Edwin 1861, Agnes 1863-1942, Wm Allan 1865, Oben Egbert 1866-1935
married 2.  22 Jul 1874 Sandy Ck SA to Jane nee LAWES who's parents were Peter Saunders and Sarah nee MORSE. She was born Sandy Ck SA and died 1910 in Mintaro SA
children Lucy Maud 1875-1952, Walter Norris 1877, Amy Eliz ROBERTS 1879-1943, Henry Stanley 1880, Hilda Grace 1882-1967, Albt Ralph 1885-1968

Here is the passenger list

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/johnbanks1855.htm

Looks like you have the wrong parents for William. I note you initially say William Matthews ROWE was born in Madron in 1856 yet this William Matthews ROWE was born in Paul in 1829. This William Matthews ROWE was aged 45 in 1874 when he married Jane LAWES so this fits perfectly. These are certainly the parents of Henry Stanley ROWE.

William Matthews ROWE was baptised 1 Mar 1829 in Paul parents John and Maria

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=1411108&dbtype=baptisms&formval=

Amelia MATHEWS was baptised 28 Dec 1828 in Paul, parents Joseph and Mary

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=1411089&dbtype=baptisms&formval=

William and Maria's daughter
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=273122&dbtype=baptisms&formval=

William's parents marriage

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=340048&dbtype=marriages&formval=

Cheers Kris 

[deeiluka]

Antoinette, following on from Kris's post, it seems the other children I found marrying were those of William Mathew ROWE and Amelia MATTHEWS......

William ROWE and Amelia MATTHEWS had the following children…….

Rosetta born 22nd May 1856
Ref =  Ade 5/334

Robert born 8th November 1857 at Mintaro
Ref =  Cla  15/525

James born 13th August 1859 at Mintaro
Ref =  Cla 15/528

Edwin born 16th June 1861 at Mintaro
Ref =  Cla  22/523

William Allen born 6th January 1865 at Mintaro
Ref =  Cla  34/571

Oben Egbert born 7th October 1866 at Mintaro
Ref =  Cla  47/281
 

Dee   
 

[krisesjoint]

Hi Antionette,

Just having a bit of a look about. It looks like John and James Ladner ROWE were probably brothers

Jakeh ROWE = Bridget LADNER

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=382961&dbtype=marriages&formval=

Will leave you to take a good look about. Cornwall is a great county to research - so much is available free online. 

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/searchdb.php?dbname=baptisms
Much if interest for you.

Cornwall Census if available Free

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html

Cheers Kris 

[deeiluka]

Antoinette, you might like to google Mintaro +William Rowe - a few interesting results come up.


Dee   

[deeiluka]

Here's some interesting information from the voyage out......

JOHN BANKS departed Plymouth on 21st February 1855 and arrived Adelaide 28th May 1855
289 Emigrants embarked, including 73 children. There were 247 English and 45 Irish.

There were 5 births on board and these included

Rowe, Amelia and William -  21 May M (twin) Henry Podger
Rowe, Amelia and William -  21 May M (twin) Robert Thompson

There were three deaths on the voyage, and two of them were

Rowe, Henry Podger born prematurely and lived 3 hrs on 21st May
Rowe, Robert Thompson born prematurely and lived 4 hrs on 21st May


Dee   

[Smitham]

Gosh you people have given heaps of help, could you please tell me by any chance is there another henry Stanley born in sth Australia in 1881, i note you say herny was born in 1880.
my father had research years ago on very little info and he had written henry born in 1881 sth oz father william mathews and his father james ladner.
i just want to make sure before i make changes to my tree that we have the correct people. I understand my father could have got henry's birth year wrong but it is confusing the different father that you have found for william to what i was told
I appreciate your help
Antionette

[krisesjoint]

Hi Antionette,

There is no other Henry Stanley ROWE born in South Australia. The birth was 21 Dec 1880 so pretty close to 1881. The parents are correct to what you believe. The problem is the grandparents names and Williams date of birth. It is  common to assume a man is about 24 at marriage (when the information is not known so perhaps that is how 1856 was guessed at knowing Henry's birth year)

It does not appear that James Ladner had a son William in 1856. Looking at 1861 Amelia is now widowed and there is no son William. Even looking back at 1841 and 1851 there is no surviving son named William appearing in any census so it appears they did not have a son named William. At least two of their children did come to SA Thomas Matthews ROWE and Amelia Matthews ROWE (It seems James Lardner's wife Amelia was also a Matthews)

Cheers Kris