The Howards in Halstead essex

[essexpoet]

I think you have the wrong John married to Jane Norfolk.

John and Jane married 30/05/1841 and had the children in my earlier post including John junior.

Robert's son John was only born 1840 so could not have married Jane. The marriage document in the Parish records gives John's father as Israel Howard.

If you have access to the 1871 census it shows the whole family living at Bridge Street.

I think it is a case of two many Johns! You have picked up one who seemed the right age to have a child born 1861.

A combination of the Parish records and the census would seem to prove the facts.

Regards
Mike

[little_fagg]

I think that seems to be the case. I will edit my tree when I get time, thanks for your help.

[Tony45P]

Hi Gary,

Yes your line is another Howard family in my tree.
I believe Fred  Jr (your grandad) had sisters Gladys and Grace.
Fred Sn married Ada Norris. Let me know if I am correct about these.
I have more information on the Beadle line. Emily's parents were John (c1819-1896) and Jane Beadle (nee Brunning)(c1820-1899) John was born in Halstead and was a shoemaker and Jane was born in Long Melford Suffolk. I have earlier information on the Beadle and Brunning families if you are interested.
Do you have any information about Edward Jr's mother as I cannot place an Edward Sn ?

Jane Brunning   ch   3rd September 1815 in Long Melford
   m   23rd February 1840 in Halstead, Essex
   bu  16th May 1899 in Long Melford
Husband   John Beadle   b   1820 in Halstead
   d   Mar* 1896 in Halstead District
Jane is the sister of my maternal grandmother's grandmother Caroline Brunning and I can stretch the Brunning FT back to 1700
Tony Pennick

[essexpoet]

Hi Tony,

Welcome to Roots chat.

I have Caroline and Jane's parents as Charles and Mary (nee Felton) and their grandparents as William and Mary (nee Cue?). Do you concur? If you do I would be interested to know if you have any details of Mary Felton's parentage.

Kind regards
Mike

[Tony45P]

Hi Mike

My records concur with yours except for one detail

Charles Edward Brunning   b   22nd August 1787 in Long Melford, Suffolk
                                   ch  12th September 1787 in Long Melford
                                   m   3rd February 1806 in All Saints Church, Sudbury
                                   bu  26th December 1862 in Long Melford
Father : William Brunning  Mother : Mary Gue  (Not Cue)

Wife :  Mary Felton           b   April 1773 in Ballington, Sudbury
                                   ch  23rd April 1773 in All Saints Church, Sudbury
                                   bu  28th October 1855 in Long Melford
Father : William Felton  Mother : Hannah Ambrose

With regard to Mary's family, I found the following

Mary had a brother William Felton  ch on Aug. 17, 1777 in All Saints, Sudbury and buried on Nov. 7, 1779 in All Saints, Sudbury and a sister Mary Felton christened Feb 12 1773  Burial Jun 1 1774, All Saints Sudbury.

Mary's Parents : Hannah Felton [Ambrose] was christened  May 4 1755 in All Saints, Sudbury and died on an unknown date.  She married William Felton on Apr. 30, 1769 in All Saints Church, Sudbury, Suffolk. William was born in Ballington, Sudbury. (No more details found about William)

Hannah's Parents : Hannah Ambrose [Pricke] was christened Jul. 23, 1725 in All Saints Sudbury.  She married James Ambrose on May 9, 1754 in All Saints Church, Sudbury, Suffolk. James was born in Ballingdon. They also had a son James, christened on Nov 10 1760.

Hannah's Parents : George Pricke.  He married Sarah Pricke  (No dates found)  They also had a son, George Christened  Jun 28 1727  All Saints Sudbury

Hope this helps

Tony

[essexpoet]

Thanks Tony for the really useful information. It is amazing how young Hannah was when she married William (about 14 !) - I am not doubting you or the records as I have seen other similar instances recorded in that era.

Regards
Mike

[Gary Howard]

Hi everyone,

Thanks very much for your help and information, I can all of this to ancestry. 

If anyone thinks they are connected to the Howards in Halstead, please message me, as I am a Howard !!!

Cheers

Gary