Tracing my family back to Sora, Italy

[jaywit]

I'll alert Sheron B to this thread, her family are from Sora.

[sheronb]

Thanks Carol, I was told he served in WW1, he was discharged for chronic asthma the same year though, and yes he did die very young, as did his son, my grandad, he was only 45 too.

I had been told my grt granmother concetta had re-married though, but was unaware of when and to whom, so thank you for that.

Allan
I am a Cirrone, my father Peter Cirrone was the son of Peter Ontonio Cirrone, which was Pesquale's son. Apparently the story is that Pasquale had a little too much to drink when signing the birth certificate and signed Ci instead of Ce and the name has stuck ever since. All of Pesquale's other sons john, anthony and Mark were all Cerrone's.( I am still trying to clarify this story as this is how my auntie remembers her father telling her how it happened.)

thanks
Tehmi

Hello Tehmi.

Most Italians in Birmingham were from Sora, my greatgrandfather came there in 1895, this I know from obtaining his Alien Reg Card from WW1, this I got from West Midland Police Museum.


http://www.westmidlandspolicemuseum.co.uk/

Email Dave Cross.

His birth act I obtained from the Archives of Sora, this does take time, 4 months in my case:

   vfontana@archivi.beniculturali.it

Best to email in Italian,the forum mentioned in gortonboys post is very good, they are experts and will help you.

The LDS does have the records for Sora, but the birth Acts are not indexed and I found them to difficult to read.
As to other records I used an Italian Researcher, very cheap compared to Irish Research and now go back to the mid 1700s.

Good luck.

[sheronb]

I have found someone who speaks English that goes back to 1804 with their tree for Cerrone ...and the 1804 is in Sora, Italy.
the tree owner is M. Polsinelli ... is that you ??
allan
i`ll PM you the e-mail address anyway ...won`t receive my PM....you have to make 3 posts and then I can send.....allan

I have Polsinellis in my tree, way back though.

[Tehmi77]

SheronB,

Thank you for your information, do you know if you can go into the West Midlands Police museum in Sparkhill and request the WW1 alien Card records, if so what information would i need to give them to obtain this?

Would you mind giving me the details of the italian researcher you used?

Thanks again

Tehmi

[garstonite]

Hiya...at last...PM sent to you with e-mail address of someone who has CERRONE  1804 in Sora,Italy ....he speaks English and his name is Mike....good luck....allan

[Tehmi77]

Sheronb can you help me?

I have contacted west midlands police museum, but they only hold records for birmingham alien reg cards. They gave me the details of Warwickshire records office, who I have contacted and they do not have Pasquale's Alien reg card either. I am awaiting some documentation from Worcester regiment, but am not sure how much this will help.
You mentioned previously that they have records on LDS, I have done a search and there is nothing listed under Cerrone at all. Does this mean If I ordered the microfilm for his year of birth (1884) that it would not be listed on there?

Also at this stage i do not know whether he had any brothers or sisters, and I still do not know his mother and fathers names. If I wrote to the records office in Sora, and requested his birth act, would they look up his parents birth, marriage and death records as well if asked or is this a bit too much???

Thanks

[sheronb]

Hello Tehmi.

No just because you can't find the name Cerrone on a search doesn't mean it won't be there on film, this is what they have for Sora:

Title   Registri dello stato civile di Sora (Frosinone), 1809-1899
Authors   Sora (Frosinone). Ufficio dello stato civile (Main Author)

Notes   Microfilm dei registri originali nell'Archivio di Stato, Caserta, e nell'Archivio di Stato, Frosinone.Births, marriages, deaths, miscellaneous documents, marriage documents.Include indici annuali.

Subjects    Italy, Frosinone, Sora - Civil registration

Format    Manuscript (On Film)
Language    Italian
Publication    Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmati dalla Genealogical Society of Utah, 1979-1993
Physical    in 79 bobine di microfilm ; 35 mm.

For a printable version of this record click here then click your browser's Print button.

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

I know for 1872 it was not indexed, and was too difficult for me to read.If you recieve the birth act from Sora, this will tell his mothers name, but I doubt they will look for other records for you, the Italian forum would know the answer to that question.You would need I reckon tp pay the Researcher to find these records.

As to the Alien Reg Card, I know the National Archives only hold London ones a s far as I know, so am stuck as how to help you there, maybe post a new thread here asking for help or ring back the West Mid Museum and ask if they know. Good luck.

[Tehmi77]

Thanks again Sheronb, I am sorry to be thick but am I right in ordering the following microfilm if his birth is 1884.

Nati 1882-1886    FHL INTL Film
                                 1883348

and I just phone up my local centre and request they order it for me, is that how it works?

Thanks again.

Tehmi77

[sheronb]

Yes that looks right, but check at the centre first. you have to go there to order the film.