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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 October 10 02:17 BST (UK) »
I've had a few experiences of this over the years and my way of dealing with it is to sling everything I've got onto spreadsheets.  One each for baptisms, marriages and burials.  Then I sort by date, by name, by parents/spouse - any which way that might be useful.

Then I attack it with a few highlighter pens and often a lot can be eliminated leaving the choice much smaller.

Very good for a rainy winter afternoon  ;D

Christine

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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 October 10 03:18 BST (UK) »
search
put just
no christian name just all surnames at the same time 
Bale, Ball, Bull, Beale, Bell ,Beal, Bail.
in surname search
with uk and leics

and keep narrowing down your search

sylvia
notts/derbys clark
      "        "      stenson
        "       "    nicholson
       "     "        jarvis
                         castledine
    rhodes

 
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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 October 10 04:04 BST (UK) »
I've had a few experiences of this over the years and my way of dealing with it is to sling everything I've got onto spreadsheets.  One each for baptisms, marriages and burials.  Then I sort by date, by name, by parents/spouse - any which way that might be useful.

Then I attack it with a few highlighter pens and often a lot can be eliminated leaving the choice much smaller.

Very good for a rainy winter afternoon  ;D

Christine
Yes Christine ..... I have done the 'spreadsheet trick' just have you have using separate sheets for births marriages a burials together with a 'miscellaneous' sheet for any instance where the name or variant turns up and it has been a wonderful help   ....... much better than using your memory.
The very important thing is not to discard anything
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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 15 October 10 11:02 BST (UK) »
Don't foreget the importance of Wills, even people of very modes means often left a will, these can  be a great help in distinguishing between families, I have solved many such problems this way.

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CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 15 October 10 19:53 BST (UK) »
people could often not spell their names resulting in number of variations that are recorded.

Isn't it more the case that there was no right or wrong spelling until relatively recent times?  People just wrote names down as they sounded, and as long as the people around at the time knew who was meant, no one thought any more of it. 

It was probably not until the late 19th/early 20th century that spelling really became standardised.  Even in the first decade of the 20thc, my grandfather and his siblings were variously registered as Davis and Davies, and while all the rest of them went with Davis, one of his brothers insisted on spelling his name Davies and passed that down.  ::)

As for the tangles - I agree with those who are saying don't give up!  Write it all down and keep it to one side somewhere, as you never know when something will turn up to confirm or eliminate something.  If and when something does, you'd be kicking yourself if you hadn't kept notes of all the candidates.
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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 16 October 10 00:05 BST (UK) »
people could often not spell their names resulting in number of variations that are recorded.

Isn't it more the case that there was no right or wrong spelling until relatively recent times?  People just wrote names down as they sounded, and as long as the people around at the time knew who was meant, no one thought any more of it. 

It was probably not until the late 19th/early 20th century that spelling really became standardised.  Even in the first decade of the 20thc, my grandfather and his siblings were variously registered as Davis and Davies, and while all the rest of them went with Davis, one of his brothers insisted on spelling his name Davies and passed that down.  ::)

As for the tangles - I agree with those who are saying don't give up!  Write it all down and keep it to one side somewhere, as you never know when something will turn up to confirm or eliminate something.  If and when something does, you'd be kicking yourself if you hadn't kept notes of all the candidates.
I totally agree with your slant on the reasons regarding spelling it adds to my own views appertaining to the repression of education for the poorer classes.
Even the clergy had limited but somewhat better education and they wrote down (recorded) what they thought they heard at events from people with no education at all who may have had speech impediments and the recorder may well have had hearing defects,not interested (other than the money) or had been at the altar wine or any or all of the above.
We are fortunate indeed to have what information is available to us today from whatever source .... it should be carefully noted even if it remotely looks as though it might not fit your needs remembering that the person(s) who hand wrote the records did not have the high degree of free education that we have available to us today so that perhaps in time it may well fill a slot in your family tree.
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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 16 October 10 00:19 BST (UK) »
Don't foreget the importance of Wills, even people of very modes means often left a will, these can  be a great help in distinguishing between families, I have solved many such problems this way.

Jebber

jebber of course you are correct .......... wills are very important and another of my pet likes is the importance of recording Marriage Witnesses.
The late Ted Wildy .... God Bless him had the brilliant idea of instituting a Marriage Witness Index a sample of which can be found here;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvic/mwi.htm
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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 01 September 12 11:54 BST (UK) »
Regarding the spelling of surnames over the centuries

If it looks Rite and sounds Write it either is Wright, or could be Right.

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Re: Is it worth the bother?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 September 12 12:18 BST (UK) »
Don't foreget the importance of Wills, even people of very modes means often left a will, these can  be a great help in distinguishing between families, I have solved many such problems this way.

Jebber

jebber of course you are correct .......... wills are very important and another of my pet likes is the importance of recording Marriage Witnesses.
The late Ted Wildy .... God Bless him had the brilliant idea of instituting a Marriage Witness Index a sample of which can be found here;
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvic/mwi.htm
Joe


Useful, but quite a few marriages that I've come across in my family tree had 'professional witnesses' - i.e. people who would turn up at weddings and volunteer to be witnesses for the price of a mug of ale.  I suppose an index could identify these people, and save the research time that I've spent researching complete strangers !   ::)  :)

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