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Re: delbert harry lantz
« Reply #18 on: Monday 20 September 10 13:38 BST (UK) »
I don't think Delbert died of his injuries, as there is a mention of the incident in a 1928 article (apparently the son of the lion that attacked Delbert attacked someone else) and it doesn't say that he died. 

The 1926 article calls him Delbert Yantz, Jr., but later refers to him as Lantz.  I figured it was a typo, but thought I should mention it just in case.  It's hard to tell of the age of the man in the picture, but I'm inclined to think he's the younger one.  I guess he could have been working around age 16.

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:05 BST (UK) »
I was not successful in finding anything further about the 1926 lion attack.  Assuming Delbert worked for the Oakland Zoo, it appears that the zoo hadn't been fully established in 1926 (I was picturing the current zoo and it's well trained staff).  ;)  Perhaps they were hiring some younger people "back then."
http://www.oaklandzoo.org/zoo-info/history/history/

Apparently, the San Francisco Zoo's construction planning was in 1929, which discounts that zoo.  I don't know if there were any other zoos in the bay area in 1926.

If Delbert, Sr. did pass away in 1926, perhaps Delbert, Jr. accepted what could be a somewhat risky occupation, in hopes of helping support the family???
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Re: delbert harry lantz
« Reply #20 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:35 BST (UK) »
well this is a pack of wonderful information.  can you tell me how i can get a
copy of the oakland tribune article that you mentioned.  also i agree that
delbert jr was to young to be the zookeeper.   the only information that i
have on delbert jr is that he was a chaufauer(can't spell) before he joined
the service, signed up in sanfrancisco.  he would not have been able to go
in the service if he had had an injured arm. 
as to maybe delbert sr dying from the arm injuries, maybe, but he later after
the attach he worked as the warehouse foreman.
don't know of any nicknames for delbert sr. 
i only saw my uncle, delbert jr, twice in my life and i have no pictures.  when
i saw him i was a teenager (eons ago) and he owned property in oregon.
i have since found several lantz's in oregon and will search them out to see
if there is a relative. 

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Re: delbert harry lantz
« Reply #21 on: Monday 20 September 10 15:09 BST (UK) »
If you send me your e-mail address via private message, I will send you the articles.  It was the Oakland Municipal Zoo. 

Considering how many teenagers I've seen in census records who are employed with full-time jobs, it doesn't seem beyond reason that a 16 yr. old might be working as an assistant zookeeper.  I suspect zoos back then may have been less focused on science and may not have required much education to work there.  Considering that the younger Delbert was mechanic/welder in the 1930's, if he was the attack victim, it would seem that he must have healed well enough to do physical work, so I don't know that such an injury would have prevented him from joining the military. 

Do you have the death certificate of the elder Delbert?  What was his exact death date?  That could solve the lion attack mystery one way or the other.


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« Reply #22 on: Monday 20 September 10 16:19 BST (UK) »
It also appears that the Lantz men were not of small stature, which would be a plus for an occupation involving animals.  Perhaps he was hired as more of an extra hand, rather than someone with knowledge of exotic animals?

Shelly, may I ask for a copy of the article, too, please?  I will pm my email, if you are able to send the article.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday 20 September 10 18:07 BST (UK) »
lisa; delbert miles lantz was born c 1909 and was on board the mromacswan arriving in the papama on mar. 2,1927 as you stated that who is delbert lantz who worked at the zoo in 1926.  my grandfather, delbert lantz died in 1929 stated by gen forum and genealogy .com.
studying back to the origination of the lantz name is quite interesting. 
landsnetch first originated 1003 and didn't change much until the romans had trouble pronouncing it so they shortened it to lantz thru one other variation.
now that variation is the basic name and all other variations came off of that.
lanss or lans came from switzerland.  lantio came from italy.  the other variation came from just plain bad writing.  lance came from the french and
most settled in new jersey. there is lentz, lans, lants, and several other
variations.  never heard of lautz but maybe thats why i can't find her under
the social security index.
you might be right that delbert lantz assumed some of the burden of the
family taking the zoo job to help out.
in talking to my mother in my teen years she stated that her father never
talked to her until she was 10/11 years old when he was ill and she used to
change his dressings.  i wonder if he was the one with the injuries and might
have died from gangorine.  since i don't have any definate records to contact the state of california it would be hard to get any information.   i have looked
up cemeteries and can't find him or my grandmother who died in 1929.  now
she went into a hospital for a hystorectomy and died on the operating of
dehydration. this information is from my mother.  she was always very bitter
towards the family because no one of the lantz family would take her in
apparently and she was sent to live with an old maid aunt, jessie, who was
maude mile lantz sister.  jessie owned a farm and my mom says that they
only thing she had to do was iron the hired hands clothes and set the table
for the hands.  this was some life for a young teen.
shelly,
i have no death certificate, marriage license or any legal papers of any kind.
my grandmother gave my mom a bible when my mom was 7 years old but
there is not information in that.
between the two delberts and one harry and the other miles is a little
confusing sometimes.  good records were not kept because they didn't know
the importance nor that anyone would be looking up records later on down
the years.
well now i have information from two people and am so thrilled.  all these
years i have flying by the seat of my britches.  now some one is flying with
me.   i can't say enough thanks to you both for your help.    shirley

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 20 September 10 18:38 BST (UK) »
If you want to know where he was from, I would definitely recommend pursuing his death and marriage certificate.  It may not give you anything more than you have, but you won't know until you see them.  Since you've gotten information about an earlier death date than where Delbert Sr. shows up in the voter registration, I'd be concerned that the information may be wrong.  (Or the voter registration may be wrong.  But it would help to find out either way.)

There are volunteers on www.roagk.org (one in Alameda Co. and two listed in All counties) who do look-ups on the California death index prior to 1940.  I would recommend asking one of them to try to find your elder Delbert.  With a definite death date, you could order his death certificate and possibly get an obituary.  There is also someone on www.raogk.org in Los Angeles Co. who does marriage look-ups, so that might be someone to contact if you think that they married there.

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 20 September 10 23:12 BST (UK) »
i would also like to have copies of the article in the newspaper but don't know
what "via private message" is. please explain if you could. thank you. shirley

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 20 September 10 23:45 BST (UK) »
This explains how to send a private message - http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php  It's sort of like sending an e-mail through the board system.