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Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« on: Monday 11 October 10 15:37 BST (UK) »
I need help on next step.  Family history is that the Greany's were butchers in Mallow in the 1800's.  I found Daniel Greany in Giffiths Valuation as an occupant of property in Mallow on Main Street.   In Pigots (1847) Daniel was listed as a  butcher on Main street.   Our ancestor who immigrated was John Greany b Mallow 1838,  His father was listed as Patrick Greany.   Patrick  married (according to family records) Margaret Flynn.   I would very much like to find the relationship.  Was Daniel Greany  Patrick Greany's father, brother or what?  What is my next step?   I have searched much of the information on the Mallow Historical site. 

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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 October 10 18:35 BST (UK) »
Quote from: irishbones on Monday 11 October 10 15:37 BST (UK)
....  In Pigots (1847) Daniel was listed as a  butcher on Main street.   Our ancestor who immigrated was John Greany b Mallow 1838,  His father was listed as Patrick Greany.
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Are you sure that Pigot's directory is 1847 ?   I've heard of the 1827 edition, but never an all Ireland one for 1847 before

Do you know what religion your Greany family were ?

The IFHF/IrishRoots website seems to have quite good coverage of the Mallow records for both RC and Church of Ireland, with the exception of a gaps in RC baptisms. Could the family have been some other denomination (Presbyterian, Methodist etc) or have come from a neighbouring area originally ?


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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 October 10 19:00 BST (UK) »
I checked some directories and found a listing in Slater's 1846 for a Daniel Creany, butcher, main street Mallow.

In Pigot's 1827

 Mich. Greany, main street - saddle and harness maker
 
Henry & Coughlan’s 1867

  John Greany, main st - butcher

Slater's 1870

  John Greany, main st - butcher


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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 October 10 20:54 BST (UK) »
I read so many things the last few days I guess I had my names confused.  It was Slaters 1846 that I saw.  I had also seen Pigots 1827 and found no Greany butchers.  I am a little confused with  the other two showing John Greany , main st.  butcher.  in 1867 and 1870.  Census records from US 1880 and 1900 show him and his family arrived in the states in 1865.  I have not been able to verify this. He had two children in Dublin after his marriage in 1859 to Grace Green.  According to census records his third child was born in Massachusetts. in 1869.   According to family the first three children were born in Ireland.  Now I have a new mystery.  That John Greany you found may not be our gggrandfather.
You helped me find John Greany and Grace Green's marriage two or three months ago when I first started looking.  The Irish are very elusive.  I wish that census records had survived.   I want to connect Daniel Greany with Patrick Greany and on to John Greany.   I even found a James Greany in the 1901 census - a butcher in Mallow.

I had more luck with the French Canadians even though I don't speak any French. 

Thank you for your help and interest.
 

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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 October 10 21:11 BST (UK) »
The Greanys are Catholic but it appears that John Greany and Grace Sherlock Green were married in the COI in Mallow.   Their children were raised Catholic in the States and Baptised in Dublin at St. Andrew.

I am sorry I failed to answer your question.

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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 11:29 BST (UK) »
Sounds like maybe a mixed marriage Geany family RC and Green family possibly Church of Ireland. Although  CofI was the established religion and various mixed marriages could take place there - even if neither party was of that denomination.

Did you find any Geany records in your IrishRoots searches in Mallow parish ?



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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 15:11 BST (UK) »
Yes there were rumblings in past generations about "english grandmother".  I found that Grace Green was born in Mallow so we were thinking maybe it wasn't true.   

I signed up on that site but didn't put  any money in.  I am not familiar with euros and I joined World Ancestry.com in Aug. hoping that would be enough. 

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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 October 10 16:52 BST (UK) »
Quote from: irishbones on Tuesday 12 October 10 15:11 BST (UK)
Yes there were rumblings in past generations about "english grandmother".  I found that Grace Green was born in Mallow so we were thinking maybe it wasn't true.   

I signed up on that site but didn't put  any money in.  I am not familiar with euros and I joined World Ancestry.com in Aug. hoping that would be enough. 

There's very few Irish details on Ancestry - and no parish or BMD records.

At the moment, the only sources for RC parish records for east Cork are the National Library microfilms or the IFHF/Roots Ireland.


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Re: Help, Advice -Greany family in Mallow
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 May 11 12:32 BST (UK) »
Hi there! I would like one or both of you to contact me please! I am researching 2 Greaney Clans in NZ and one is from Mallow Co.Cork - and involves 2 brothers, Daniel (a butcher in Mallow) and John. I have more information regarding these brothers.
The other Clan appears to have come from Newmarket but it is not confirmed yet.
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