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Offline janaridge

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richard twigg
« on: Sunday 10 October 10 00:15 BST (UK) »
Hi, any small clue would be most helpful. I am trying to trace my greatgranddad, known details are taken from census and army records. his name was Richard Fransis Twigg, born about 1847, now his place of birth has been given as Bakewell, Sheffield and Chesterfield. I have got various birth certs for these areas but none are right. he joined the army in 1867 I have a copy of his records from Windsor Barracks but they give very little information, only he was aged 18years 9 months, and was training to be an electro plater.prior to joining. never gave any next of kin. no trace of him prior to this. He married in london in 1873 his father was named as James Twigg a captain in the merchant services No trace of him either. the puzzle came when I got a copy of his death cert his name was given as Richard Francis Riley otherwise Twigg. I have copies of All records after 1867 till his death in 1917.
 Where was and who was Richard from birth till 1867, where do I go from here?

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Re: richard twigg
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 October 10 05:38 BST (UK) »
Hello

Maybe Richard was born before marriage or was illegitimate.

Richard Riley born  sept quarter 1847 Chesterfield Derbyshire   19  455


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sorry modified I have found  1851 in Mosbro reg district Chesterfield Richard Riley with parents Charles and Grace siblings Francis ,Grace and John
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: richard twigg
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 October 10 06:03 BST (UK) »
On pilotsearch the Richard Riley born 5th Sept 1847 to Charles Riley and Grace Caroline dies 9th Jan 1853. Sorry! :-\
It does bring up another birth around that time - 27th Feb 1849 to William and Dorothea at Stapenhill, derbys.
Maybe he lied about his age to join up - I've got lots of people who didn't seem to know how old they were! Wonder if he had to provide his birth certificate to join up?Maybe he didn't exactly know where he was born either. Got some of them too!

Quite a puzzle this one! Good luck
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: richard twigg
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 October 10 12:07 BST (UK) »
I have found a Richard Riley in 1861 census in workhouse in Sheffield born 1847, but the record for workhouse have been lost so can't follow this through. also criminal record listing on ancestry has a Richard and James Riley, James acquitted Richard given 18months, so this would perhaps be worth a look at, as dates fit but not sure how to go about this.  As 1 of his daughters registered his death the family must have known his secret. thank you for your help


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Re: richard twigg
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 October 10 21:47 BST (UK) »
There are a number of reports in the Sheffield and Rotherham Independent newspaper.

Richard RILEY was aged 18 of Holly Street.
There are a number of indictments against him.

He should appear in the calendars of prisoners, but unfortunately Sheffield archives is now closed until late next summer for alterations.


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Re: richard twigg
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 October 10 22:41 BST (UK) »
hi and thank you tuppie, it will be worth waiting for them to open again, although It is not pleasant to think of family breaking the law, it may shed some light on the circumstances he lived in and maybe if it is my Richard the reason for name change.  I have been searching for him for the last 4 years.so will phone Sheffield archives to check they are reopened and plan a visit.  will keep you posted.
   jan