1911 census help

[debh]

Hi all

I'm helping a friend out with her ancestry and am stumped when trying to use the 1911 census  .

I'm borrowing her "find my past" subscription but have hit a brick wall trying to find her grandmother.  How hard can it be to find Martha Ann Keefe born in Swansea in 1905? I've located her birth there and tried searching variants and all counties but can find nothing.  The only other info I have is that her dad's name was Richard and she had two brothers believed to be named richard and patrick.

all help welcomed!

Deb

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Have you looked for the father, Richard?

Searched Martha's birth by +/- a couple of years?

Are you sure she was in England or Wales in 1911?

Perhaps she's listed as Ann?   I've a few ladies in my tree who switch their names around!


Nanny Jan

[Arranroots]

Hi Deb

Have you had a look at the Tips thread?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355239.new

(Reminder: we can't offer 1911 look-ups for copyright reasons)

[t mo]

hi both
 i,ve looked for richard in 1911 although several come up there,s no martha  ann , i was going to ask have you looked at the 1901 for richard and family to try and pin them down
trevor

[debh]

Hi all and thanks for your replies - at least its not only me who cant find them!

I have looked for Richard in 1901 but cant be sure i've found him - he was married in 1903 so wouldnt have been with a wife and family in that census.

Think my friend might have to buy a birth cert to be sure on this one and in the meantime keep trying to locate by using dad's name or variants on Martha Ann

Thanks so much

Deb x

[Shropshire Lass]

Hi all and thanks for your replies - at least its not only me who cant find them!

I have looked for Richard in 1901 but cant be sure i've found him - he was married in 1903 so wouldnt have been with a wife and family in that census.

Think my friend might have to buy a birth cert to be sure on this one and in the meantime keep trying to locate by using dad's name or variants on Martha Ann

Thanks so much

Deb x

That's what I was going to suggest.

[groom]

I've tried looking by just putting Martha  born 1905 Swansea and nothing remotely like Keefe comes up. Also tried the same with Ann.

Very odd. Do you know where Richard came from, was he Welsh?

Jan

[Arranroots]

Hi Deb

Is this the marriage?

Marriage

Sep 1903 Swansea

Vol 11a Page 1576

KEEFE Richard

and either/ or

STONE Margaret Ann
WESTACOTT Edith

I can't see any births with the same mother's maiden name (only indexed after Sept 1911), so that implies that the brothers were born before that date.

[debh]

Yes, that is the marriage.  Not yet sure of the name of the Martha's mother until birth cert comes so not sure how now to proceed.

It does seem that they are absent or possibly using another name. Wonder if theirs was a missing census return?

Deb x