Allen parish- Martin

[shanew147]

I know it's 10 years out.. but this is the only F. Martin baptism I see in the index for Allen RC parish within 10 years of 1837

    Baptism    Frank Martin    1827    

Father's name matches for Henry


Shane

[CLT]

Shane- thanks- I'll look into it further- I'm not the sole user of my PC so can't always reply immediately-thanks for your help!

[cyril walsh]

hello clt
i live near allen, i can do a bit of searching for you if you like.
best wishes
cyril walsh

[CLT]

Cyril, that would be wonderful ! I would love to find out Francis's mothers name and anything about his father Henry, or siblings. Thank you

[cyril walsh]

hi clt
just found something for you in the marriage sheets i have.
married in allen church.
28 11 1848 henry martin,  baronstowns anne taylor, baronstown.
could this be the henry mentioned.
best wishes
cyril

[CLT]

Hi Cyril, I think Henry was born before that. He was Francis's father. I have 3 conflicting dates of birth for Francis now 1) from his army discharge papers which state he was born in Allan 1834,  2) from his wedding certificate which states he was 29yrs in 1862 ie born 1833 and 3) from his death certificate which states he was 50 years old in 1881 ie born 1831. Shanew147 on this thread says he found a Frank Martin born in 1827 who's father was Henry.  I am more confused than ever and still don't know his mothers name!  I wonder if the Henry you have found could be his brother?

[cyril walsh]

hi clt
when i re read the marriage i realised i made an error, but i would say he is related.
baronstown is just next to allen, hopefully tuesday i will have more info for you.
best wishes
cyril

[cyril walsh]

hi clt,
i'm just back from the parochial house in allen.
francis was baptised 04 04 1827 parents henry martin and mary kane or kean milltown.
he had brothers michael1824, pathrick 1832, sisters mary 1834, anne 1837.
also on that page david martin son of david martin and sarah halpin baronstown.
anne martin daughter of john martin and anne byrne ballintine.
anne martin daughter of patt martin and mary lennon ballyteigue.
all these locations are in the parish of allen.
if i can help you further dont hesitate to ask
best wishes
cyril

[CLT]

Cyril,
Many many thanks for taking such a lot of time on this- I am really grateful for all this information! At last a definate date of birth for Francis! And brothers and sisters- that's more than I hoped for.  Do you think the other baptisms mentioned will be Henry's siblings children? I'll have to come back to them when I've done a bit more research on Francis's generation!
Is it strange that Francis joined the army and gave a date of birth seven years later than his real one? Does anyone have any thoughts on this? The men in our family are small in stature so he probably could have got away with saying he was 17yrs 6 months when he was actually 24, but what would be the advantage in that?
Cyril thank you for your offer, which I will accept, once I've had time to process what you've collected and you've had time to rest! My 81year old cousin will be delighted to hear this news- thank you for being such a star !