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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 October 10 20:36 BST (UK) »
Hi All,
I think I have made some progress;
but first of all I do not understand Hackstaple's last comment please explain.
I believe Douglas Audley in the 1881 census of Broom Durham born Starnel is really Douglas Handley.
I believe Douglas Handley married Sarah Lambert in Q4 1876 at Dewsbury, and had their first daughter Agnes in Q4 1880.  Whilst Douglas Handley was in Broom Durham in the 1881 census, his wife and child were living with her parents in Thornhill Dewsbury. It looks as though Douglas Handley was working away from home at the time of the 1881 census. In the 1891 census the family was living together in Guildersome Yorkshire. In the 1901 census Douglas Handley was in Leeds General hospital and died in Q2 1901 in Bramley,

I cannot find Douglas Handley in the 1851, 1861 or 1871 censuses. Although in the 1871 census there is a Douglas Handley on board HMS Columbine born Lancashire, Bury, Cockennen, however in the 1871 census he is aged 32. This is 10 years to old to fit in with the 1881, 1891 & 1901 censuses.

Thanks once again for all your help

Regards Brian Audley
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 October 10 21:13 BST (UK) »
Hello Brian,

Douglas is here in 1861 as Duglas:

1861 RG9; Piece: 2839; Folio: 47; Page: 20

born Elton, Bury 
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 October 10 22:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood,
That is definately him in the 1961 census.

He is not living with his parents James & Agnes Handley in the 1871 census, so i presume he is the Douglas Handley on HMS Columbine in 1871.

I have not found him as yet in the 1851 census.
Thanks for your help
Regards
Brian
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 October 10 22:29 BST (UK) »
Where was you born? Was Darn Hill.

I was illustrating how the census may have recorded Starnhill as his place of birth. Mishearing.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 October 10 22:35 BST (UK) »
They are here - transcribed as Manly

1851 HO107; Piece: 2215; Folio: 460; Page: 30

living at Starling, Elton, Bury

wonder if that is Starnell?
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 03 October 10 10:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood,

That is definately them in the 1851 census and I think you hace cracked the original puzzle Starnel is Starling

Many thanks to you for solving that puzzle and Many thanks to all who have helped to resolve the problem

I think that I will post another puzzle later today on the message board (hope no one minds)

Regards
Brian
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Re: Where is Starnel in Lancashire
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 03 October 10 12:12 BST (UK) »
We can't wait  ;D
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