Fred Robichaud and Elizabeth Gallant

[HomesteadMommy]

Hello, new here and hoping someone might be able to help.    I'm having a hard time finding more info on one family line.

I'm trying to find out more about my gg grandparents Frederic (Fred) Robichaud and Elizabeth Gallant(Gallian).  Not having to much luck on this side.  Their children were born in Chatham, New Brunswick.
Names are Joseph Alexander b1895, Patrick b.1892, Josephine b.1897, Alma (Emma my g grandma) b. 1898, and I also think these children John b.1887, Albert b. 1888, William b. 1890, James b. 1891, Daniel b. 1894, May b. 1895.

I think but not positive that Elizabeth died in 1899 and Fred remarried Catherine Mahew (Mailloux), 14 Aug 1899. Who also went by Kate and Katherine. Then they had children Frederick b. 1902, Bernard b. 1904, Mary Anges b. 1906, Katherine Rose b. 1908, Mary Susan b. 1911, Annabella b. 1914.  That was a suspicion of someone else I talked to, but I haven't been able to confirm it. I did find the marriage reg for Fred and Catherine.  But it did not say if he was single or widowed.

I haven't been able to find any records for Fred and Elizabeth other then their children birth records in the NB archive website.  I haven't had any luck finding a marriage reg for Fred and Elizabeth yet. 
Their daughter Alma (Emma) married Oscar Anderson from Sweden in 1914.  Oscar died in 1921 not long after returning from WW1.  Alma remarried Roy Robinson a few years later.   I have found the birth reg and also the marriage registrations for Alma Emma online.  Just including the info in case it's helpful.

My main snag has been in not being able to find a marriage reg for Fred and Elisabeth.  I'm guessing it would be around 1885 biased on the age of the eldest child.  I'm hoping that if I can find it, it will list their parents names.
If anyone has any info on the family, especially Fred and Elizabeth would be very much appreciated!  This side of the family has been really hard to track down. 
Thanks,

[polarbear]

Hello there and a warm welcome to Rootschat  .

You can search for your family in the 1901 and 1911 Censuses for free at this link. Click on 'split view' at the top of the index page to see the original image which gives additional info.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/

And you can search the 1891 Census for free at this link.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/index-e.html

Polarbear

[HomesteadMommy]

Hi Polarbear, thanks for the welcome. 

I have searched the census many times.   I can't find any info about Elizabeth past 1898 when her last child was born.  But in the 1911 census there is a Fred and Kate who were married in 1899.  Some of the children listed look like the right names/ages that they could be the children of Fred and Elizabeth.  But there's no hints as to Fred's parents are or Elizabeth's. 

What I've found in the census data so far is.  I'm not 100% that these are the same family.  But it is possible.  I don't think that they left New Brunswick, since there daughter Alma married there in 1914 and she was only 16.

1891 
Frederick Robichau
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1855
Birthplace: New Brunswick
Religion: Roman Catholic
Father's Birth Place: New Brunswick
Mother's Birth Place: New Brunswick
New Brunswick
Chatham
Frederick Robichau 36
Eliza Robichau 30
Abert Robichau 5
John Robichau 3
William Robichau 2
James Robichau 1/12

Then in 1911
Fred Robichaud
Age: 65
Birth Date: May 1846
Birthplace: New Brunswick
Relation to Head of House: Head
Tribal: French
Province: New Brunswick
Northumberland
Chatham
Fred Robichaud 65
Kate Robichaud 38
Dan Robichaud 17
May Robichaud 15
Alexander Robichaud 14
Emil Robichaud 10
Patrick Robichaud 8
Agnes Robichaud 6
Rosina Robichaud 3
Susan Robichaud 0

[HomesteadMommy]

Ok one more census that's relevant.
http://automatedgenealogy.com/uidlinks/Links.jsp?uid=150467151

That one shows the comparison between the 1901 and 1911 with Fred and Kate.  Since their marriage reg in the NB archives and on ancestry shows they were married in 1899.  I'm pretty sure it is Fred's second marriage.  Many of the children listed are to old to have been from their marriage.

[J.A.M.]

Hi,

Have you tried the New Brunswick archives?

http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/Govrecs/VISSE/default.aspx?culture=en-CA

Good hunting.

[J.J.]

The 1911 seems to be from the Frederick/ Catherine Mahen/Mahe/Menn/Maheu union which does seem a second marriage, but is this the same family as you've indicated on the other censuses....?
 
Joseph Alexander Robicheau May 20 1895, Josephine Robichaud was born March 2 1897, Alma Oct 25 1898

As they appear to be Catholic, maybe you might get lucky and find more births to prove the children are all of the same father before moving on...
If you think that is the right family in 1911 which did you think was Alma?

adding 1901 info
Robicheau Fred 1847 age 53 / Kate 1876 age 25
Albert  1887  age13
John  1888  age 12
Minnie  1889  age 11
William  1890  age 10
James  1891   age 9
Xavier  1892  age 8
Josephine  1896  age 4
Danl  1897  age 3
Amos  1898   age 2
Joseph 1900  age 6/12

[HomesteadMommy]

Hi, Sorry for not getting back to you all sooner.  I've been busy getting ready for our Thanksgiving weekend. 

Alma was my great grandmother and she also went by Emma.  I believe that in the 1901 census her name is miss written as Almos.  Then in the 1911 I think she is the Emley (Emma).

I did write to the New Brunswick Archives a few weeks ago.  I heard back the other day.  The death registry for Elizabeth Gallant in 1899 does not list a spouse or parents.  But they said apparently common before 1920?
The marriage certificate for Fred Robichaud and Catherine (Kate) Maheu did list Fred's parents and his birth place.
His birth place is Pokemouche.  His parents are listed as Luc Robichaud and Archauge Arcenault.  The person who looked it up for me said the mothers name was hard to read, but that was his best interpretation.

Biased on that I went digging and I believe that Luc and Archauge are this couple.
1861 Census of Canada
Luke Robitheau36
Arkangel Robitheau30
Mary Robitheau10
Ferdinand Robitheau8
Peter Robitheau5
Philias Robitheau4
Maurice Robitheau4
Nazan Robitheau1
Anthony Robitheau0

I could be wrong, but I believe that Ferdinand is my Fred.  I've found many Ferdinand's going by the name Fred...

A marriage listing for Luc and Archauge
http://www.robichaud.info/marr/tracadie.htm

I wrote back to the archives to see if they have a marriage reg for Fred and Elizabeth about 1885/86.  I've searched there online site and haven't been able to find one.  If it lists the same parents for Fred, that would confirm my hunch.

Oh and yes, both the NB archives and the Family search site have the birth records for the children.

I remember a story from when I was little.  It was about my great grandmother being adopted.  But I know that's not true as I have her birth and marriage reg.  I think it's a twisted story biased on her being raised by her step mother.  Alma was born late in 1898 and her mother died spring of 1899, Fred remarried 4 months latter.  I'm thinking that's how the story was changed a few generations latter...

[J.J.]

The family list on this page seems to have the same thought with same & more children listed
http://www.robichaud.info/data/D0000/G0000151.html#I132 Too bad the Gloucester 1852 census doesn't exist anymore to look for Archange / Angelic
This site has different names for the children
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/e/l/James-A-Pellegrin/GENE1-0060.html
I can see children/marriage etc for Nazare ( Nazan) but don't see him or the family  in 1881...?
Different spellings of the name I have found just in a few searches Robichau, Robichaud, Robichaux, Robicheau, Robichaud,  Robicheaud, Robichaux
Robicheaux, Robitheau, ...then all the Robe variations of the previous spellings
also Robexcheau, Robcheau, Robecgeau

added: aha I found them!!! ( I thought Naz would be an easier find but he was transcribed Nagane) uh, duh, why didn't I look for Ferdinand?
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e326/e008135695.jpg
and this transcription mother as Aresse
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_942094

Noted that: two houses previous
Morgan Arceneau   female widow age 72  b. New Brunswick / Farmer / Catholic
 Gilbert   widower age 50 Farmer
 Margret age 28   Augustine age 10      

Note that in next household is  Elizabeth Arceneau, a widow age 54, so perhaps a sister in law??
a Joseph Arceneau  Servant , Peter DAUGIE  and a Mary Robecheau in household!!

Then a few homes over Oliver Arceneau  age 40 wife Polin & big family...in case a brother

[J.J.]

I thought Ialso found them in 1891... & it seemed your Ferdinand as well transcribed as Fermond....?
But check out the household? "Angle" in household appears to be the mother? But children are too old for it to be the right one...
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1891/001081-119.02-e.php?person_id_nbr=317454
Other family members seemed to be on page