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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:17 BST (UK) »
What was your grandfather's name and maybe we can find them on the 1901/11 censuses www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:25 BST (UK) »
They eventually lived at 30 Clara Street Belfast but Edmund John Costley gave an address as 51 Bread Street on the wedding record

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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:27 BST (UK) »
So this would be them in 1901. Olivia's mother showing as Elizabeth and living with them at that time.

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000715053/

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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #12 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:31 BST (UK) »
Olivia's age shows much older in 1911:

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Clara_Street/220721/

1901, aged 29 so born c. 1871/2. 1911, aged 45 so born c. 1865/6 from this.

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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #13 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:35 BST (UK) »
Where did the marriage take place? I can find no record of it in civil registration index (Ireland) or FreeBMD (England and Wales).

I did find marriage for Edmund John Costley Oct./Dec.1899 Belfast registration district volume 1 page 482 but can't match the details with a bride named Olivia. However, Emerald Ancestors has it in the free index.

Here's the Costley family in 1911 census- Olivia listed as age 45 so born c1866. Since Edmund seems to be younger it's possible she lied about her age so as not to appear too much older than him.
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Pottinger__part_of_/Clara_Street/220721

But in 1901 Olivia and Edmund are the same age-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Clara_Street/1216497
And Olivia's mother Elizabeth is also in the household. The family are all Methodist, including Elizabeth, wihich makes a C. of I connection puzzling.
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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #14 on: Friday 01 October 10 22:44 BST (UK) »
Possible death for mother Elizabeth Lynar in civil registration index-
Elizabeth LYNER Jan./Mar.1903 Belfast registration district (age 62 so born c1841) volume 1 page 350.
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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 October 10 10:51 BST (UK) »
I have a record of the marriage from Ancestry Ireland, that give her name as Olivia Jane Lynar so I think that bit is correct.  The Elizabeth Lynar could have been her mother.  Was she married to Rev William Lynar of Islandmagee.

According to the Methodist Church Archives :-

"The Rev William King Lynar was a Church of Ireland clergyman b. circa 1818 in Dublin. Made a deacon in 1845 and became rector of Islandmagee from 1849-70.
He was son of Capt William Wainwright Lynar, 18th R Irish Regiment.
Died 21 Apr 1870 aged 51 at Whitehead, County Antrim" 

My problem is the Rector needs a wife, Elizabeth would have been 29 or thereabouts when he died and if Olivia was born in 1866 or thereabouts this would fit

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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 02 October 10 11:45 BST (UK) »
If, and in my mind this is still a very big if, Olivia Jane Lynar was the daughter of Rev. William King Lynar then she had to be born before 1870. If the 1911 census is more acurate then she was born c1866 but I can't see a birth registration for her. Also can't find any results of 'Olivia Lynar' (or Olivia Jane/Jane) when searching civil registration index (her marriage should be listed).
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Re: William Wainright Lynar and Isabella Semple
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 02 October 10 12:17 BST (UK) »
Like you Aghadowey, can't see anything for Olivia Jane regarding births, or a general IGI search for siblings.

Her marriage is listed I think, with some omissions and errors:

Oliver Jane Lynar - Belfast registration district volume 1 page 482 - no year is given on http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start

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