Borrill family from Belchford, Horncastle

[jim1]

If you've put this on the AF board you probably already know he's Royal Artillery.His tunic appears to be pre 1915 but I can't see it that clearly.
The men are dressed pretty much standard for 1910-20 however the younger woman is in a style of around 1910-14.The girl also around this time & probably before the dropped waist style of dress became popular in 1915.The little chap is in socks & shorts which by the start of WW1 were the fashion for boys generally,so I would suggest this is 1914-15.
From the pose you can see the relationship,the soldier has a hand on the shoulders of the older couple indicating (grand) parents,the man to his right has his hand on the shoulder of the woman in front indicating wife.

jim

[Treetotal]

You could also put it on the Lincolnshire Forum and if you name the thread "Borrills of Horncastle" if anyone googles for Borrill rellies in Horncastle it will pick up the Rootschat thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,23.0.html

Carol

[fordofcrows]

Carol - `Boviell'    I've struggled with, Burrel, Barrel, Berrill amongst others.  I've only got as far back as 1823 so far, with John Borrill.  I like to fill in all gaps before going back further though.

I don't know if it's worth moving this to the lincs forum, Carol.  Already it comes up top of the list in a Google search.

Jim - all good info, thank you.  I know what you mean about the soldier's hands on the older people's shoulders - this was my first thought; that they were his grandparents.  My prime suspect for the identity of the soldier was/is John Thomas Borrill and he did live with his grandparents when his mother (Mary Fisher) died in 1883.  John was aged 6 then and went to live with his grandparents, John Borrill b. 1823 and Mary b. 1822.  Both grandparents died in 1893 though.  Because of this, and because of the pointers that other contributors made to this thread I am inclined to think that if it is John, he has his hands on his parent's shoulders (actually step-mum and father).  If that little girl on the left is Florence then she only has one brother who is old enough to be that soldier, and that's John Thomas.  But the problem with him is that he enlisted for the 7th Battalion Australian  Commonwealth Horse regiment.  And for this, I will reiterate my earlier question - If a soldier had earned medals for his service in a foreign army, would he be allowed to wear them on the uniform of the regiment he'd joined in this country?  Is it feasible that John T Borrill had come back from Africa and this was his WW1 enlistment photo?

I must admit this is all driving me nuts - should I consider holding a seance to get answers?    Ha! Ha!  Only joking of course!   

[joegab59]

Hello Borrill watchers, i am tracing my roots through my mother whos father was Joseph Borrill Wilson (Hull) whos mother was Elizabeth Wilson nee Borrill and my mum remembers going to Barton to see the inlaws across the river. Having just returned home this evening I googled the name and found you all talking, spookily the picture of the young serviceman resembles very closely my son Joe. Elizabeth married a sea captain before my great grandad called Rowbottom. He went down with the ship and left Elizabeth with 2 sons walter and Robert, if any one can throw any lights for me please let me know, cheers for now, Joe.

[fordofcrows]

Hello Joe.  Thanks for joining in with the Borrill puzzle.  I don't have any answers for you I'm afraid but I am certain that some of the more knowledgable Rootschatters will be able to find you something.  If not, it might be a good idea to start a new thread called `Borrill family from Hull'.

I find it very interesting that your mother remembers going to see the inlaws this side of the river and the soldier's striking resemblence to your son - there simply has to be a link!

Anyway, good luck with your research.  I will of course let you know if I find a connection.

Best wishes,

David

[Roderick Carlyle]

Hello, when I was a child in Sleaford Lincolnshire, My family were acquainted with a Mr Borril who was very old and lived in The arms houses near the church in Sleaford, he informed me that he had served in the Boar War, this would have been approx 1964_66


Regards Rod Carlyle

[Madame Rosbif]

Hello David (Ford of Crows),
This photograph is of my family too!
My Grandfather, George Borrill, is the young man on the far right of the back row. In front of him is his younger brother, Joseph. Both George and Joseph moved to live in Winteringham, Lincolnshire, where George met and married my Nan, Nellie Bratton. Roland moved to live in Appleby, Lincolnshire and I remember my Nan talking about Auntie Florrie. I also know that T hey used to visit relatives in Knaresborough.
There was a family story that George was one of 22 children but I can't find any evidence of that.
I do know that my Grandad's father was married to Mary but later remarried. On the 1901 census, Hannah is listed as the 14 year old daughter of the next door neighbours. She was obviously significantly younger than him when they married.
I too would love to find out about the rest of the family. In the past, I have had contact with Stephen Borrill, the grandson on Roland. He lives in Australia now, having moved there from Hibaldstow, North Lincolnshire. I will see if I can dig out the information he shared with me and see if I can find a way to contact him again.

What are your links to the Borrill family? It is fascinating to find people who are linked.

Tracey

[Treetotal]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat...unfortunately David hasn't been on Rootschat for almost 3 years...you may get lucky and get a response.
Carol

[Madame Rosbif]

Thanks Carol.

Oh, that's a shame. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Tracey