Robertson Marriage

[norah]

Hi I wonder if any one can help I am trying to find a marriage
for John Smith Robertson born 1870  Larham Edinburgh and a Helen P b 1870 Edinburgh. on 1911 Census its says m for 18 years so it makes it about 1893. I can't find a marriage in England. There 1st Daughter was b 1895 in Manchester followed by about another 3 children in M/c. On 1901 Census they are living in Jarrow Newcastle On Tyne were they remainded I was wondering if any one had access to Scotish People and would do me a look up I need wedding date and Helen Surname I would be every so grateful for any help Regards Norah

[Piglet01]

Hello,
A search for all of Scotland on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk the official govt website from 1885 to 1900 - brings up only one marriage to a couple with that combination of names.  Both aged 24.

Married on the 31st March 1893 "After Banns According to the Forms of the Church of Scotland"- John Smith Robertson , Surgical Instrument Maker (bachelor), married Helen Phillips (Spinster).

Johns address appears to be 23 Hibbert Street, Rush???, Manchester.
Helens, B??field Street, Edinburgh.
Johns parents, Robert Robertson, joiner and Janet Robertson (M.S.Smith) -
Helens parents, David Phillips, shoemaker, and Janet Phillips deceased. 

Note:  Looks as though her maiden name may also be Phillips.

Wittnesses were John Phillips and Maggie Robertson

The entry is not of the best quality - so shall ask SP for a re-scan.  May take a few days.  If you pm me I'll forward the entry.

Regards,  Steve

[nainmaddie]

Hi
I was just about to post the same.
Found the marriage and have printed it off, if necessary

Maddie

[nainmaddie]

Hi

Just to complete the above message.
John came from Hibbert St. Rushholme, Manchester.

Helen it appears to be Brandfield Street, Edinburgh

It is not a good, clear print, but just readable.

Maddie

[norah]

Thank you so much for that info it is a big help to me.He must have come down to M/c before m so I will check 1891 census any info piglet 01 I will be grateful for Thank you both for looking Regards Norah

[Piglet01]

This would appear to be Helen with her family on the 1881 census .  Note Helens brothers occupation.


Dwelling:   13 Moray Street
Census Place:   Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland
      
David PHILIPS.  M, 54 , M, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland.  Head
Occ:   Shoemaker
Janet PHILIPS.  M, 54 , F,Edinburgh, Scotland. 
Rel:   Wife
John PHILIPS.  U, 19, M,Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel:   Son.  Occ:     Surgical Instrument Maker
Janet PHILIPS. 15,  F, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel:   Daur. Occ:  Dressmaker
Helen PHILIPS. 13,    F, Edinburgh, Scotland
Rel:   Daur.  Occ:  Scholar

[norah]

Thank you for that info Helen could have met her husband through her brother then. I looked to see if I could find John Robertson in M/c on 1891 census but no luck Thank you for the info once more Regards Norah

[alistairw]

I am a great grandson of John Smith Robertson and was wondering if you would share what other information you found.

Many thanks and seasons greeetings

[Hibee]

Brandfield Street still exists.  Sean Connery would have known it well...he was born about 50 yards away.

Hibee