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Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« on: Wednesday 29 September 10 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I know this is a long shot but I am trying to find information about HANNAH JARVIS, convicted at Norwich assizes in 1816 and transported to Australia for Life per the "Friendship". Unfortunately her convict records are blank except for the basic info. It doesn't even say what crime she committed. She would have been born about 1780. Later her two adult children, William and Hannah Jarvis came out to Australia as well. William would have been born about 1801 and his sister, Hannah junior was born 1804. Hannah, senior, calls herself a widower but no mention is made of her husbands first name.
My main questions are - does anyone know where I can access her original court records? and can anyone find birth records for the two children  she had to leave behind?

Thanks Janine
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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hi, the only Hannah jarvis coming up on A* convicted in Norfolk 1816 is:

hannah Jarvis summer Asizes  robbery in a dwelling place sentenced to death

perhaps this is her and she was transported instead because of Hannah aged 12?????

looking..
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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
do you have a date for Hannah & William goin gto australia?

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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 15:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Janine,

There is an article of the Downham Riots (May 1815) in the Bury and Norwich Post dated 21 Aug 1816 which has the name Hannah Jarvis as being involved. Her crime was destroying and taking away a quantity of wheat meal and flour from the mill of Wm Baldwin.

Sad to think you could be sentenced to death for such a crime but it seems that she was reprieved, unlike some others that were involved.

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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Thanks so much for your quick replies Diddy and JJ! The time frame sounds right for the conviction but the age for the girl who stole from a dwelling place is too young. If Hannah's age at death is correct she had to be born about 1780. which would make her about 21 yrs old when William was born and about 36yr old when she was convicted.

Her children William and Hannah, junior, emmigrated on the ship "Hope" in 1824 to join their mother in Tasmania.

I have another ancestor who only stole an apron and was transported to Australia, so it didn't take much at all to end up on the other side of the world.

cheers Janine
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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 September 10 19:15 BST (UK) »
sorry - I didn't mean Hannah convicted was 12, I meant her daughter.

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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 October 10 15:09 BST (UK) »
This has been a real breakthrough for me. Now that you have pointed me in the right direction I have found an on line Google book that mentions Hannah and another woman that was transported with her - Amelia Lightharness.
"In Downham Hannah Jarvis, along with three other men, led the crowd which robbed George Thomas of several gallons of beer, and she alone led an attack on a butchers shop, where she distributed beef among the crowd"
p. 31 Women in Protest: 1800-1850 chapt. Women in Food Riots. By Malcolm I. Thomis, Jennifer Grimmett


"Rather more fortunate were the East Anglican rioters who had contributed dramatically to the events of 1816; Amelia Lightharness and Hannah Jarvis were transported to NSW, perhaps to be categorised as thieves, while others received sentences of six to twelve months in goal with hard labour" p. 45 Women in Protest: 1800-1850 chapt. Women in Food Riots.


regards Janine
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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 March 13 00:03 GMT (UK) »
I know this is a terribly later reply to this post but I am doing research about my own Jarvis's in Southwold, Suffolk. Apparently Hannah is my 3rd GGMother who was married to Willam Jarvis, b abt 1780 (unknown birth place) and d. Jul 1841 in Mutford, Suffolk, United Kingdom.

Children:
Hannah Jr     
Birth 2 Dec 1799 in Lowestoft,
Death 15 Jan 1879 in New Norfolk, , Tasmania, Australia
William Jarvis Jr
    Birth 18 April 1801 in England
    Death 26 Apr 1870 in Macquarie Plains, Tasmania, Australia
Elizabeth Jarvis
    Birth 14 Feb 1803
    Death unknown
Robert S Jarvis
    Birth 28 Nov 1805 in Trowse, Norfolk, England
    Death 11 Sep 1876
James Jarvis
    Birth 27 Sep 1807
    Death unknown
Mary Ann Jarvis
    Birth 23 Jun 1809
    Death unknown
Henry Jarvis
    Birth abt 1815 in Lowestoft, Suffolk, England
    Death

That should be a good start and hope it helps.

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Re: Hannah Jarvis, Convict
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 March 13 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi watdocnc60,
 
Thanks for the reply. I have previously had a look at this family in Lowestoft as they were such a good match but unfortunately this family appear to have stayed in the area. This is what I found:
> Lowestoft
> Bur. William JERVIS son of William/Hannah 21yrs 25/2/1822
> Bur. William JERVIS husband Hannah 69 yrs 4/8/1841
> Bur. Hannah JARVIS widow William 84 yrs 29/3/1854
> In 1841 William Snr is with daughter Mary Ann who married John RUTHEN in 1836.
> Can't see Hannah but she is with the same family in 1851.

So it would appear that I must keep looking for the origins of Hannah Jarvis and her son William and daughter, Hannah, who came to Tasmania.

cheers Janine.
David Wallace HAY, Helena DAVIDSON , Alexander HUTTON , Elizabeth JOHNSTON, Arthur JOHNSON, Agnes McPAKE, Mary McPEAKE, Mary JOHNSTON, Margaret JOHNSTON, Mildred Rose HARRISON, Francis HARRISON, Mary SOUTH, William WILLIAMS, Charles DUFF, Grace LESLIE