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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 30 September 10 12:25 BST (UK) »
Having been brought up in the place, I definitely consider my nationality is Yorkshire   ;D  but a couple of maternal lines of my father's ancestors didn't stay in the same place more than a generation - both lines due to the Highland clearances.  The exceptions were the men in my father's paternal line who I've taken back to 1704 and who only moved a few miles at a time along the River Clyde in Scotland.  Similarly with his mother's lines who were rooted on the Midlothian coast from mid 1700's onwards and thus might have Scandinavian or other genes.  My maternal grandfather was Norfolk which again could mean vikings.  My mother's maternal grandfather was a German saxon and his roots were in the same place from mid 1700's onwards.  Excepting for one wife in the 1600's and one husband brought back to Yorkshire from "London" all my maternal grandmothers lines didn't move very far from the Yorkshire Dales. I do so wish there was a paper trail back to the origins of my maternal gt grandmother's line as her surname seems to be one of an ancient English God which took the earthly form of a green woodpecker (!)

My OH had blue eyes, black hair and olive skin and his lines have led me a merry dance on all compass points of the UK.  There's a family rumour that one Scottish line included a survivor of the Spanish Armada who managed to evade capture when his ship foundered off the coast, which could explain his skin, but as yet I haven't found the evidence or a surname that hinted of a foreign land.

I'd never really thought about it before but I suppose I'm 1/2 Scottish but I'll leave it up to mathemeticians for the breakdown of the other fractions.
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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #28 on: Friday 01 October 10 14:37 BST (UK) »
I was born in Norfolk to Essex parents and consider myself more Essex than Norfolk. My parents moved up here in 1975 and I was born in 1982. They married in 1971 in Essex.

My dad is 50% Essex, 25% Oxfordshire and 25% Suffolk.
My mum is 50% Essex, 25% Durham and 25% London.
I am an 8th London, 8th Suffolk, 8th Durham, 8th Oxfordshire and 4 8ths Essex.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 01 October 10 17:04 BST (UK) »
I was born in Kent - south of the River Medway (not sure whether that makes me a Kentish Maid or a Maid of Kent)
My mother was born in Sussex and her female line is Sussex through and through, as far as she is aware, but who knows!
Her father was born in Lewisham.

My father was born in London with 1/4 English, 1/4 Welsh, 1/4 Scottish and 1/4 Irish blood in him!

I consider myself to be English, but always in the back of my mind is the fact that I am not pure blood English! Thinking about it, I doubt whether anyone is!  I am sure that someone will take me up on that!

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 01 October 10 17:21 BST (UK) »
I dont think anyone can be pure blood Irish either. They will probably find Norman and Viking and Spanish blood in them and even English and Scottish.

I have French Huguenot ancestors. Some came from south western France. I wonder if France had many people moving there from surrounding countries over the centuries?
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 01 October 10 17:40 BST (UK) »
My grandparents were English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish...so I guess that makes me 100% British. In fact, much more British than my OH, who is English ;D ;D

I was born in Canada, so I'm 100% Canadian.

I'm a naturalized US citizen now, so that makes me 100% American.

As Annie pointed out, it's your choice. I guess it also depends on the context, or who you're talking to :)

Snaptoo, south of the Medway would be east of it, right? So you'd be a Maid of Kent :)

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 01 October 10 18:07 BST (UK) »
I have an ancestor who emigrated to America and died there so I have an ancestor who is buried in America.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #33 on: Friday 01 October 10 18:13 BST (UK) »
100% American; it doesn't matter where the ancestors came from.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #34 on: Friday 01 October 10 18:16 BST (UK) »
That shows that some people have different views. If you were born in London to Suffolk parents then you can consider yourself a 100% Londoner because you were born and raised there never mind where the parents came from, some people see it for where they and they only were born and raised.



Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: How english, welsh and Irish am I?
« Reply #35 on: Friday 01 October 10 18:22 BST (UK) »
slightly off topic ... I know 'American' refers to someone from the United States of America, but since it's a continent it's always struck me as a slightly strange term, like me saying that I'm European.. instead  of Irish


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