Help with the Sewell family

[Betty.W]

Annie Sewell b.1887 St.Bride. Sarah Sewell b.c1881 or later. St.Bride. William Sewell b.1881 Holborn. and Annette Sewell b.1879 Clerkenwell.
These are my grandmothers siblings. I have been trying for ages to find marriages, and possible children for them without success. I believe Annie lost her husband when the Titanic went down and ended up in a mental home in Surrey where I think she died.
Thanks in advance
Betty.W.

I have looked on a site for Titanic victims, but, need to know Annie's married name.

[Mort29]

If this is them in 1881 - RG11; Piece: 341; Folio: 8; Page: 10 - theres a possible hit in 1891 and 1901, but other names like Harriet appear ?

Using FreeBMD for Deaths / Marriages up to 1901 isnt too helpful so far.


(Saw you added the Passenger list comment)

[Betty.W]

Yes this is the right family, Harriett was my grandmother, there was also a brother Charles. I just haven't been able to find the marriages of Annie, Sarah, William and Annette. Obviously I need Annies married name to be able to find her husband on the Titanic lists.
Actually their father had been married before and there was another Annie born in 1869,I found her marriage but her husbands name wasn't on the Titanic lists so it had to be the younger Annie's husband,

[lizdb]

It is unclear from the censuses exactyl how many children there were and how old they were - each census image is very unclear - the names in 1891 and the ages in all of them - so I would reckon there is work to do just establishing who there is!
For example, there is no birth reg for an Annette Sewell around 1878ish. The census is so unclear it could be any name really. So no point in looking for what happened to her if she didnt exist!

1881 RG11 341 8 10
Grays Inn Rd
William J 40 marble polisher
Annie 28
Annie 12
Alice 8?
Annette? 3?
William J 17months?

1891 Rg12 238 26 44
Plough Court
William 52
Annie 37
WIlliam 13
Annie A 17?
Harriett S  ?

1901 RG13 140 143 3
Grays Inn Lane
W T  61  Bookseller
Annie 48
William 22
Sarah 20
Annie 14
Harriett 12
Charles 8

Have you found any of them on 1911? that would be the next step.

When Harriet (your direct ancestor who you have traced) marries, who are the witnesses - might be a married sister?

Have you found a death for Mum and dad? If so, Wills can be great sources for finding what happened to offspring, esp finding married names of children.

[carol8353]

 On 13th June 1897 an 18 year old Annie Sewell married a Thomas Murray also 18 at St pauls Clekenwell.

He was a newspaper seller of 3 Ludlow Street ,his dad James also a newspaper seller.

She was of 20 Pine Street,her dad William a bookseller.

Witnesses- Alfred Martin and Mary Ann Peak.

All of them signed.

NOT THE RIGHT FAMILY SEE ABOVE

[carol8353]

I'm wondering if we don't have 2 different families here Liz?

I've found the 1919 marriage of a Sarah Sewell age 32 with a dad William who is dec'd but was a marble mason.

Witnesses were Annie Buckthorpe and Charles Henry Sewell.


An Annie Martha SEWELL Married a Frederick BUCKTHORPE in Holborn in June 1889.

[carol8353]

Does your Harriet marry Frederick Murray in 1914?
If so her dad is down as a stonemason.

Carol

[Betty.W]

Hi,
Yes my Harriet did marry Frederick Murray. The marriage of Sarah must be the right Sarah because her older half sister - the first Annie was married to Frederick Buckthorpe. also Charles was her half brother. Who did Sarah marry? unfortuantely The marriage of Annie to Thomas Murray isn't my Annie as she was born in 1887.   Betty W

[carol8353]

IN that case the 1901 Sewell family that Liz found probably isn't correct,if dad's a book seller?

So he was still alive in 1914 then (unless no one asked Harriet what does your dad do and is he still alive  )

Will be back soon with more details 

Have you managed to find them in 1911 yet- we can't do look ups I'm afraid.

It might shed some on things, as the length of time married and how many children born within that marriage are given. Even in the men are not living at home  they sometimes misunderstood the question(only asked of married women) and also answered how many years married and how many kids 

Daughter Annie is a confusing one I must say 

Carol