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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 September 10 12:50 BST (UK) »
I should be able to chck the calendars at Holborn later this week.

I'll let you know

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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 September 10 20:23 BST (UK) »
Carol: I just don't get why they missed those two years out! Booo!

Dawn: if it's not a huge pain for you, I'd be really grateful if you could have a look. Thank you. :) His 1851 address is 5 St George's Place, which I suppose might show up in the calendar. His wife at the time of his death was Charlotte Augusta Clement, who might appear as the widow, of course. His residence will be Kent or Surrey, I suspect.

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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 September 10 20:49 BST (UK) »
I actually managed to go just after I posted earlier.

I checked 1859, 1860, 1861, 1862 and 1863 but there were no entries so unless the will was proved years later, possibly due to business interests, there isn't one where you'd expect it to be.

I also looked for a will in the Times but couldn't instantly see one mentioned although his death notice is printed there.

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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 September 10 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you!

What date was his death notice printed? I've got access to The Times at work so can go and have a look tomorrow.


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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #13 on: Monday 27 September 10 21:18 BST (UK) »
Wednesday, Feb 9th, 1859, his death is listed with others on the 6th.
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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #14 on: Monday 27 September 10 21:20 BST (UK) »
Great, thanks! Does the entry for his death give much info?

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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #15 on: Monday 27 September 10 21:57 BST (UK) »
On the 6th inst at Rosherville, near Gravesend, William Clement Esq., of 170, Strand, aged 51
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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 September 10 08:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks! That's interesting because it ties in with the Norwood burial record, which gave his residence as Gravesend. 170 Strand was the office of The Observer! Despite everyone giving it as their home address, no one lives in it on the 1841 and 1851 census (unless they were busy, it being a Sunday night and them running a Sunday paper!), and when someone does in 1861, it's not the Clements.

I think I've now found his death certificate at least - there's a Mar qtr 1859 Wm Clement death in N. Aylesford, which seems to be the right area.

I wondered if he died intestate? His half-brother George died in 1861, aged 47, and he did have a will (he died in the November and probate was granted on 2 Jan 1862). I've sent off for that so maybe that'll reveal something.

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Re: National Probate Calendar for 1859
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 September 10 09:03 BST (UK) »
If he died suddenly, he may not have made a will, however, if he was a man of some substance then I would have thought there may have been letters of administration; apparently not.
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