using the marriage indexes 1845-1958

[Mike Fisher]

George King was in the army in Ireland from 1844 to mid 1850's when his regiment went of to the Crimea .He and his wife Sarah Jane had a daughter Elizabeth Sarah Jane King; in all the censuses from 1871 she give a birth date of 1854 and a birth Country of Ireland and a  birth Country of Ireland and a place of Cork in two of them.

In beta.family search I have come up with a marriage for George King in the Irish Civil Registration Indexes Cork 1853 Vol 4 Page 491

Searching for Sarah Jane I come up with Sarah Jane Meyers Cork 1853 Vol 4 Page 564

Is this the same marriage, I can't see images of the indexes.

Where do I go from here?

Mike in chilly Drioitwich

[ShaunJ]

I think the page numbers would be the same if it was the same marriage.

Have you found his army papers on FindMyPast?

[shanew147]

If the following details on the index match it means that the two names are on the same page of the same marriage register volume, and therefore may have married : Year/Quarter (early index details just use year), registration district, volume & page numbers.

You have to order a cert from the GRO to see the full details - see :

 Introduction to Irish Records
 Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
 Details included on a Marriage Cert



Shane

[Mike Fisher]

Hi

I have had all his military papers for a number of years.

It show cork registration but all the other entries show a church these two don't .
What does that mean .
Is it possible to see actual images of the indexes? not just the family search results

[shanew147]

Hi

I have had all his military papers for a number of years.

It show cork registration but all the other entries show a church these two don't .
What does that mean .
....
Is it possible to see actual images of the indexes? not just the family search results

On the records without the registration district (i.e. Cork) are probably extracted records rather than civil index details.

You cannot see the index book for Irish records. This feature did work for a while when the records were introduced, but all this showed was the corresponding page from the index - so the same details (i.e. name, district, volume & page) as included in the transcription.


Shane

[Mike Fisher]

thanks

[ShaunJ]

Mike, per the 1881 census Sarah Jane was born in Armagh circa 1833.  Looks like "Crafen Island" ? Perhaps someone can help identify the parish. It might be possible to approach the problem from that direction

[shanew147]

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In beta.family search I have come up with a marriage for George King in the Irish Civil Registration Indexes Cork 1853 Vol 4 Page 491
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Searching for Sarah Jane I come up with Sarah Jane Meyers Cork 1853 Vol 4 Page 564
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I had a look for a valid cross match for that 1853 George King marriage you located - but don't see anything promising. There's a few marriages in Cork of the name Sarah around the right time but none that match up.

Do you know what religion your King family were ?
Catholic marriages were not included in the civil records until 1864.


Shane

[Mike Fisher]

His daughter Elizabeth Sarah Jane born 1853/4 in the 1881 census onwards is a nun/teacher in convent in Stow Hill, Newport, Monouthshire giving her birth place as Cork, Ireland (I don't have any details of her birth/baptism) His wife Sarah Jane gives here place of birth as Armagh Crafen, Ireland in the 1881 census for Wales.

They were catholics and George King was in the 47th then 49th Regiment of Foot in Ireland from 1844 until 1954  when they went off to the Crimea