1851 BETNALL GREEN please

[Bryant]

I can' see the 1851............ I do have discs but i'm sure some nice young lady has got online access QUEUE CAROL 
IF YOU CAN'T SEARCH BY STREET NAME input SMITH or BROWN...BETHNAL GREEN and then search for APPLE STREET ............ the theory being their is normally a Smith or Brown in every Street 

are they at 2 APPLE STREET, BETHNAL GREEN in 1851

Bryant

[carol8353]

My husband was born in 1950 and given the name of his brother who had died(at 9 mths old) 2 years before.This was from an Irish family,where it was almost compulsory   to have a son called Patrick  

So are you saying Sue that you had Habbit/Abbot's 1849 birth cert all along?

Carol

Flipping heck Bryant - I ain't gonna get any ironing done today either!!!
So what surname are they under in Apple Street?
Can't search that well known website under street names 

[Reyz]

I have searched the Street index on 1851
No Apple Street
Appleby Street Shoreditch

No number 2 written in but think it is a an error

Roughly where no 2 is :

William HANS  40 born London Finsbury 

252/ 26a / p29

So hope it helps.

[carol8353]

I too have the CD roms but as Reyz says there isn't an Apple Street 

Where are you getting this info from Bryant?
Can you give us a reference please.

Carol(half way through the ironing  )

EDIT - I have just looked through an 1848 map of Bethnal Green too and again there is no Apple Street- any chance you could scan the relevant portion of the birth cert Sue and post it here? One of us(or more) could give you a second opinion on the street name.

[SueB]

On 2nd looks I don't think it is Apple Street.  I'm not much good with this fancy script writing used by Thos.Howard the registrar on all my family's birth certificates........... His capital A for Abbott is definitely not like the first letter in this street name.  Sorry for all the confusion.

It could be O - G or Y -  P or K - E.

I will have to get someone else to scan the cert and email it to me and then I'll email on to you again. Shall I send Mary Ann Clara's as well?  I'm wondering if the marriage cert of Abel Durrell and Mary Ann Becraft is really the Habbitt Durrell after all....

[carol8353]

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=191822.new#new

for a possible of siting of them in 1851.

Wouold appreciate others thoughts on this,the enumerators writing leaves a lot to be desired 

Carol

[kimhat]

Hi Sue

Am coming into the lively Durell discussion a bit late but only just found it whilst Googling. A great relief to find someone on the trail of the same Durells as me. I belong to Sarah Hannah b 1818 (I believe she's my Sarah anyway).

Sarah Durell married James Buckingham 28 January 1838 at St Matthew Bethnal Green. Sarah's father Richard Durell, weaver. James's father David Buckingham, writer. James lived 7 Grosvenor Place BG; Sarah lived 4 Park St BG.

James and Sarah's first son James Edward Buckingham born 22 March 1838 at 7 Grosvenor Place BG. In 1841 census James and Sarah at 83 Wheler St BG with Mary Durell, 60, weaveress.  As you know, same census has Richard and Rebecca Durell with son Richard, plus James and John, at Grosvenor Place. No house number, but it's the seventh household from the beginning of the street on the form....

In 1851 census James and Sarah are at 53 Holywell Lane Shoreditch and with them is Mary Durell, widow, 67, weaver. You probably won't have found her in the index as "they" have indexed her as Mary Dyrell.

Given that my Sarah's father was Richard (marriage cert) and that Mary lived with Sarah till her death (1850's), and that Sarah is aged 32 in the 1851 census, I am as certain as I can be that she is Sarah Hannah Durell b 1818 to Richard and Mary, and thus sister to your Abbott. Also, James, John and Richard Durell (with Rebecca nee Bain) living at Grosvenor Place 3 years after my Sarah and James lived there, places them all neatly as your Abbott's siblings.

Only fly in the ointment is that Habbitt Durell's baptism shows "female" (can't remember where I saw this now but will look it up again later). This threw me for a while when I was also looking for your Abbott.

Sorry I didn't get into this earlier as I could have saved you all that faffing about with the other Richard Durells - there is a whole other branch getting in the way of ours at BG! Can fill you in on those if you like, but to be honest it's really good to be getting somewhere with MY Durells for a change (keep helping other people with THEIRS!)

There's more to say on all this but hope you're still out there ... how far have you gotten since those earlier postings c 2005?

Kim