1851 BETNALL GREEN please

[kennyb]

I'm finding it hard to keep track here! Who is this one?

Richard Durell 39 Silk Weaver Bethnal green
Rebecca   "     35      "             Whitechapel
Richard     "     15        "           Beth grn
Martha      "     4mths                 "      "

                                KenB.

[Bryant]

If Richard with wife Rebecca are Mary Ann's parents where is she in 1841/51...I don't like it!

Mary Ann Becraft married Abel Durell in the Mar qtr of 1853........which means she would have been born no later than 1837........the marriage cert said she was of adult age (might be a fib?) which would make her birth no later than 1832         

We need to find (if they are still alive?) Richard Becroft/Becraft aged approx 55 and also John Durell aged approx 55.....in the 1851 census....based on the 1841 census where they lived next door to one another in George Street, Poplar.
Unfortunately I don't have access to the 1851.............

I didn't find either in the 1861 census so I checked B/M/D and their are 3 x Richard Beecroft's that died in Middx 1841-1861............all at Stepney....two? in June 1852 and one in Mar 1854 so he should be around in 1851

Bryant

[carol8353]

Hi guys,

Is this any good to you? From 1851 on HO 107/1553 folio 795 page 4

At 11 Henry Street, Mile End Old town lower.

Richard BEECROFT head 56 labourer b Shadbrook Suffolk
Mary wife 55 b Stepney
Richard son 32 unm labourer b St Georges Middx
Mary Ann Merkhins? Dau widow 29 waist coat maker b Stepney
John Merkhins? grandson 3 b Stepney

Mary Ann's name has been transcribed as Mertkins.........but not sure myself 

Hope this helps

Carol

[Reyz]

Hi

Checked George Street in 1851
No one of those surnames   -  looks like FULLER & PATTEN

Check Cottage Street and Wall Street (think its WELLS Street)   in 1851  again no luck, sorry.

Good luck..
Reyz

[carol8353]

Ahhhhh in Sept 1843 FreeBMD have a possible marriage between a

Mary Ann Beecroft and a Marten Mehrtens - in St George in the east.

Volume 2 page 37

Two of 8 names on that page of course  

They also have the death of a Martin Mehrtens in Stepney in June 1849.

Is this your girl...........?

Carol

[Bryant]

Carol

wrong girl......

message from Sueb

Marriage 1853

I now have their wedding certificate and Abel(Abbott)'s father is listed as Richard Durell, a weaver.

The address for Abel is 10 Cottage Street but I don't know if  it is Bethnall Green or Poplar. Mary Ann Becraft's father is John, a sailmaker and her address is 5 Wall Street, presumably Poplar as that is where the wedding took place.

Both are of full age so now I am hoping to find them or their parents on the 1851 or 1841 census or any parish records
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Carol

I wanted him to change occupation.............but he is still a labourer

In the 1851 is their a John Becraft/Becroft/Beecroft living in the east end (Poplar, Bethnal Green, M.E.O.T, or somewhere within Tower Hamlets) who must be at least 35 and has an occupation of a sailmaker

Bryant

[carol8353]

Not that I can see Bryant- I've found one who's a brewer in a distillery  and another who's a floor cloth painter.

I helped someone yesterday,who's ancestor was a basket maker ! and yet daughters marr cert said labourer. Still trying to prove he's the right one....or not.

I'll have a coffee and come back to this later........it might wake me up more,this one sounds a lttle  complicated.

All the best

Carol

[carol8353]

10 Cottage St has a Lewis family in 1851.

Haven't been able to find Wall Street in either Poplar or Bethnal Green yet.

Will keep looking

Carol

[Bryant]

1853........ABEL DURELL married MARY ANN BECRAFT

Looking at the 1861 census Mary A or Abel/Abbott or Mary Ann & Abbott had children before they married in 1853.............now ...what if Mary Ann Becraft is actually Mary Ann "Mehrtens" and when she remarried she reverted to her maiden name.............it's beginning to look good (it isn't as you will find out later)

Carol..........you may well have cracked it


The family are listed on the 1861 as DARELL/DURELL living at Old King Street, St Nicholas, Deptford (RG9/397 page 36.

1861
ABBOTT DURELL 40 stevedore
MARY A DURELL 38 wife
ABBOTT 11 son
MARY A 13 daughter
Eliza 7 daughter

MARY A (the wife) has a question mark LIMEHOUSE against her birth but the father and the rest of the children were born in Bethnall Green.  

ABBOTT died in 1863 aged 42, he was born in Bethnall Green but I have been unable to make any links with the other DURELL families in Bethnall Green.