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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 06:34 GMT (UK) »
Might be absolutely nothing, but a Belfast newspaper on Monday 12 December 1898 carries the briefest mention of a Charles Harding being charged with having assaulted his wife on 29 November and being sent to jail for 3 months, there is no further detail.  Also there is a Charles Harding death in Belfast workhouse in 1905, reported as 45 year old bachelor, but no other detail. 

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Never assume a divorce has taken place unless you have proof! Bigamy was more common than divorce for the average person at that time and moving back to Ireland would certainly have helped avoid being caught! I looked up the marriage certificate on GRONI just to confirm my suspicions (see below).

Alfred Charles Harding m.1 (Jan./Mar.1912 Dover, Eng.) Florence Mary Sherwood Brice according to registration index which also shows 4 children born (father Harding, mother Brice)-
1. Albert C.J. Harding (July/Sept.1912 Dover-Jan./Mar.1919 Dover)
2. Doris M.F. Harding (Jan./Mar.1914 Dover-Apr./June 1927 Dover)
3. Irene Anne M. Harding (2 Jan.1920 Dover-Dec.2003 Kent) m.(Jan./Mar.1945 Dover) Frank Firth
4. daughter (Apr./June 1921 Dover)

Alfred Charles Harding m.2 (15 Dec.1919 Belfast) Abigail Halliday (Lyttle) Duff
1. Henry Stewart Harding (1921-1921)
2. Alfred Harding (d.1991)
others

Marriage: 15 Dec.1919 Dundela Presbyterian Church (by Jas Hunter), parish of Holywood, Co. Down, Alfred Chas. Harding, full age, bach., coal miner, 6 Medway St., father- Alfred Chas. Harding (died), to Abigail Duff, full age, widow, 51 Central St., father- Alex. Lyttle (joiner). Witnesses: Colin McKaig Rice, Emma Rice.

Roselawn Cemetery (U 423):
Abigail Harding, 76, 51 Central St., died 23 Feb.1966, buried 24 Feb.1966
Alfred Harding, 77, 51 Central St., died 28 Feb.1966, buried 1 Mar.1966
Wilhelmina Mercer, 58, 86b Newtownards Rd., died 25 Oct.1979, buried 29 Oct.1979
Alfred Harding, 67, 8 Tower Court, died 10 Dec.1991, buried 12 Dec.1991
https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=9163.3317
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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 29 December 15 15:26 GMT (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 30 December 15 02:57 GMT (UK) »
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Thank you, aghadowey and  gaffy,

gaffy, I have seen those 2.
1st are there any jail records in Belfast covering his time in jail, might have address mentioned.
2nd one bachelor, these was another Charles Harding in Belfast at that time.

aghadowey, I also thought that he didn’t divorce Florence,but on army papers stated that no more money was to be paid to her, except for they’re 2 children. (not Named in papers),

So assume they were Albert and Doris, but as both died young, did not follow any further.

Second 2 children were born after he left and went back to Belfast.

Second marriage is correct as Colin McKaig Rice, Emma Rice. were my grandmother (AC’s sister) and her first husband. and address fits.

But it has father- Alfred Chas. Harding (died) by 1919, this is the first mention that Charles had a first name of Alfred.

I am in contact with the Lyttle side of the family.

It is still Charles Harding that I need to find, death for.

Thanks agan. Trevor1955
Brent, Weeks - Devon, Wales.
John, Jones, Jenkins - Carmarthenshire, Wales.
McMath, Mathieson, McDermid, - Campbeltown, Glasgow.
 Harding,
Hanna, McBride, Rice, Lyttle, White - Belfast.


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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #40 on: Monday 04 January 16 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pottsharding, Hi Trevor1955 i am new to all this. The info coming through is very interesting. Charles Harding was the father alfred charles Harding the son.

When you have posted more than 3 posts, I can then PM you, with info I have on Alfred.

regards Trevor1955

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 06 January 16 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trevor1955, i have the death of charles harding down as 1937. Born 1859

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 07 January 16 02:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi pottsharding,

Where is Charles Harding buried, birth age about right, where born?

Any other info on death cert, ie. address, etc?

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Trevor1955
Brent, Weeks - Devon, Wales.
John, Jones, Jenkins - Carmarthenshire, Wales.
McMath, Mathieson, McDermid, - Campbeltown, Glasgow.
 Harding,
Hanna, McBride, Rice, Lyttle, White - Belfast.

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 06 February 16 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi trevor 1955  Sorry do not know where charles harding is buried

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Re: Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 07 February 16 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pottsharding,

Where did you find the death date of 1937 for Charles Harding?

regards
Trevor 1955
Brent, Weeks - Devon, Wales.
John, Jones, Jenkins - Carmarthenshire, Wales.
McMath, Mathieson, McDermid, - Campbeltown, Glasgow.
 Harding,
Hanna, McBride, Rice, Lyttle, White - Belfast.