Charles Harding m. Martha McBride?

[Trevor1955]

Hi All, I am researching my Grt-grandparents Charles Harding and Martha McBride, I think that that they married about 1881 in Belfast. I know that they had 2 Daughters Jane (d. 12.10.1958) (m Samuel Lyttle d.5.9.1943) and Emma (my Grandmother )(b. 13.5.1896). (m. 1917 Colin Mckeag Rice).  Can not find any trace of Charles on 1901 or1911 census.

Any help in finding them would be great.

Trevor

[aghadowey]

Looks like Charles Harding could have died before 1901. Martha Hanna and children Emma, Jane and Alfred Harding listed here-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Island_Street/1218375

Added- Martha Harding married 1899 Belfast?

[aghadowey]

According to civil registration index Charles Harding m.Apr./June 1881 Belfast registration district.
Children (all reg. Belfast district):
Jane Harding birth Jan./Mar.1886
Alfred Charles Harding birth July/Sept.1888
Emma Harding birth July/Sept.1894 (date fits with 1901 census)

Here's James and Martha Hanna and family in 1911 census (her children also listed as Hanna rather than Harding)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Medway/225884
Says James and Martha married 30 years, had 10 children with 7 still alive  Wonder if James filled out form meaning he first married 30 years ago and they'd 10 children between them?

See that Colin Rice was a neighbour in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Medway/225872

[Trevor1955]

Thanks for the quick reply.

Where would I look for Charles's Death?

I do have a link to Hanna, somewhere in my search, will look back through my paper work and find it.

If James was married before, who are the half bro/sis to Jane and Emma?

I have a note in mothers diary of:-

Alfred aged 71yrs in 1958, birthday 4th July, aged 76yrs in 1964.

Must be the same one.

Thanks again.

Trevor

[fifer1947]

That would be correct if Martha married in 1881 she had been married 30 years, hadn't she?  Just not to the same man.  The entry on the form has been scored through on James' entry.

Edited to add: It looks like Martha has counted the children of both marriages as one family.

[fifer1947]

Looks like Eliza (called Lizzie on census 1911) and Martha are half siblings.

[Trevor1955]

Thanks Aghadowey and Fifer1947,

But I have a problem with :-

Emma Harding birth July/Sept.1894 (date fits with 1901 census)

My sister sent me this info found in mothers things:-

A certified copy of entry of birth of EMMA Harding, entry no. 94, date & place of birth was Thirtieth May 1896 at Maternity Hospital, Father Charles Harding, Mother Martha Harding formerly McBride, father was a Labourer, quallifaction of informant was M.H.Ormerod at Maternity Hospital, this was dated 10th June 1896 &  signed by registrar John Johnson, birth registered in the district of Belfast no. 2. This certificate is in a very delicate state.

We assume that the hospital was in Belfast.

The Birth dates don't match?

any idea's.

Kind Regards

Trevor

[Trevor1955]

Sorry for the colour.

it said:-Emma Harding birth July/Sept.1894 (date fits with 1901 census)

Trying to hard.

Trevor

[fifer1947]

I'm getting the 1894 birth (father Charles) too on another site.