birth of Charles Wagstaffe circa 1845

[BOBWAG]

Hello
Could anyone help me with the birth of my great grandfather in the Boston area circa 1845 believe his parents were St John Wagstaffe and Frances Tilley, from information obtained on the Notts board.
Thanking you in anticipation
Bobwag

[wozzle]

birth index
name; charles wagstaffe
y.o.r. 1844
qtr; jul/aug/sept
dist; boston
vol; 14
page; 232

[Geoff-E]

Marriage 29 July 1840 at Sutton St Mary
St John WAGSTAFFE (son of Richard) to Frances TILLEY (dau of William)

This couple have a son
Charles 6 Boston in the 1851 census.

[trish1120]

1841 Census
Wollaston, Northamptonshire
HO107/802/14/Wollaston
St John WAGSTAFFE, 30, Butcher
Frances Wagstaffe, 20
Sarah SMITH, 35
All not born in County

1851 Census (admire how you found them Geoff E under Waystaff!)
HO107/2096/509/33
London Road,
Spalding, Lincs
St John WAGSTAFFE, 41, Warehouseman, born Huiwick(sic), Beds
Frances, 31, born Weston, Lincs
Fanny, 8, born Wollaston, Northants
Chas, 6. born Boston, Lincs
Ellen, 3, born Spalding, Lins
Emma, 1, born Spalding, Lincs

Birth/Christening Familysearch Pilot;
St John Livesey WAGSTAFFE, Birth 02 January 1810/ Christened 24 Jan 1810, Puddington, Bedfordshire
Parents RICHARD and SARAH
Frances TILLEY, Christened 07 March 1817, St Mary, Weston, Lincolnshire
Parents WILLIAM and FRANCES

Possible Marriage;
Richard WAGSTAFFE, Sarah YEAT, 30 September 1800, Puddington, Bedfordshire

Trish

1861 Census they are in London Rd,Spalding, Lincs;
RG9/2320/2024
St John WAGSTAFFE, 51, Brewer, born Ainwick, Bedfordshire
Frances, 44, born Weston, Lincs
Fanny, 18, born Wollaston, Northamptonshire
Emma, 11
Jane, 9
Martha, 7
Ellen, 5
All other children born Spalding

[BOBWAG]

Thank you all for info the Bedford connection appears to tie in very nicely and have had a lot of info from the Beds board to confirm the information . I don't seem to be able to find chas on the 1861 census though.I would like to find him if poss also his mother's birth and any info on her parents William and Frances Tilley.

     Robert (BOBWAG)

[Geoff-E]

I don't seem to be able to find chas on the 1861 census though.

He's in Broad St, Spalding
Charles WAGSTAFF 17 Baker, Boston
RG9/2323/62/6

in household of James BARNES 45 Boston

[trish1120]

Hi Robert,
Not sure if I understand part of your question as I gave you his Mothers Christening;
Frances TILLEY, Christened 07 March 1817, St Mary, Weston, Lincolnshire
Parents WILLIAM and FRANCES
You can search Familysearch Pilot yourself for extra info but here we go;
Children of WILLIAM/FRANCES Tilley, Christened St Mary, Weston, Lincs
MARY D'RIPPE, 14 September 1823
ELIZABETH, 19 February 1826
ABRAHAM, 01 November 1829

I cant find them in 1841 under Tilley but it is possible Frances Remarried;
Frances TILLEY
William NORMAN, 27 February 1837, Weston, Lincoln

1841 Census
Skirbeck, Lincs
HO107/610/2/Skirbeck
William NORMAN, 65 (45?), Ag Lab
Frances Norman, 65 (45?)
Lucy Norman, 4
Mary SELLEY (TILLEY?), 15
All born in County

The image is hard to make out but I am pretty sure what I have put in brackets is the correct info.
Mary D'Riffe Tilley would be abt 15 in 1841.

I would appreciate others opinions

[trish1120]

Answered my own question!

1861 Census
Boston, Lincs
RG9/2336/41/27
Willia NORMAN, 68, Head, Mar, Labourer, born Boston, Lincs
FRANCES Norman, 65, Wife, Mar born Weston, Lincs
Lucy Norman, 22, Daug, born Weston, Lincs

FreeREG also has the Marriage I quoted  from Familysearch Pilot and Frances IS a Widow.

[trish1120]

FreeREG;
www.freeereg.org.uk

Marriage;
William TILLEY
Frances JACKSON, 02 May 1816, St Mary, Weston, Lincoln

Burial, 03 Aug 1830,   TILLEY, Abraham, Lincolnshire, Weston, Infant   
Burial, 21 Apr 1833,   TILLEY, William, Lincolnshire, Weston, Age 39
(So born c 1794)
Unfortunately we do not know where William was born as he does not appear on any Census.

There is this one though from the IGI;    
(William TILLEY, 01 JAN 1794, Carlby, Lincoln, England to WILLIAM and ANN) EDIT; IGNORE THIS ONE AS Geoff E has found better info in his post!

And also;
Frances JACKSON, 19 February 1795, St Mary, Weston, Lincoln
to WM and MARY