Evans family Aberdare

[Warrick089]

Hi I am trying to find the birth of my great grandfather James Evans.  He married Catherine Jane Jones in 1889.  His address was 15 Windsor Street Trecynon Aberdare while hers was Hirwaun Road Aberdare.  His father's name was given as Daniel and her father was William both coal miners.  Their children were William David abt. 1896, Daniel James abt 1894, Maria abt. 1892, Edward Trevor abt. 1899 and my grandfather Redvers Frederick Buller Evans born 1900.  I can find them on various census, last (1911 census) 11 Parc Terrace Senghenydd.  However I've hit a brick wall because I cannot find his parents............any help would be appreciated.  He was supposed to have been born in Aberdare and was 20 when they were married. 
Regards Pamela from Australia

[osprey]

1891 census has at 15 Windsor Street RG12/4443 folio 15 pg 23

Daniel Evans head mar 45 collier b. Pembs, Letterston
Ann wife 45 b. Glam, Pendarren

1871 ref RG10/5406 folio 15 pg 21 enumerated as Dan
1881 ref RG11/5320 folio 38 pg 32 

[osprey]

Just realised that this Daniel Evans is at the correct address and has a son of the correct age, but son is Thomas, not James. But surely too much of a coincidence & could warrant further investigation.

1881 has a James Evans, nephew to William Evans b. Pembs, Mathry in Ystradyfodwg RG11/5304 folio 5 pg 3.

 

[Warrick089]

Thanks for that and you are right it sounds too much of a coincidence.  I know that they were related to the family of William Evans from Thomas & Evans grocery chain and it is likely that he may have moved out of home.  I will certainly follow this up and thanks once again.  Pamela

[osprey]

just having a little look around. Daniel & Ann had a son called Ebenezer whose birth was registered june qtr 1868, I think. Found him in 1891. His address is 25 Hirwaun Road. RG12/4443 folio 110 pg 3. There's a William Jones married to a Maria at 28a. Are they Catherine's parents, by any chance?

[Warrick089]

Hi again, yes that looks about right.  On their marriage certificate Catherine's father's name is William and their address is 37 Hirwaun Road Aberdare.  James and Catherine called their first daughter Maria so it looks very promising.  I couldn't find the info for the 1871 census for Daniel and Ann (although found the others) can you point me in the right direction.  Thanks once again Pamela

[Warrick089]

Hi again, while this all sounds like I'm travelling in the right direction I still cannot find the birth of James or even his name on any census return with Daniel and Ann.  Could he have been Thomas James or James Thomas? Feel like I'm going around in circles. Regards Pamela

[osprey]

1871 7 Miners Row, Llwydcoed RG11/5406 folio 15 pg 21
Dan Evans head mar 25 miner b. Pembrokeshire
Anne wife 25 b. Glamorgan
Ebenezar son 3 scholar b. Glamorgan
Thomas son 1 baby b. Glamorgan

Have to say that I'm beginning to think that James & Thomas are one & the same. I've tried following the various brothers of Dan. He does have a brother William, but he's not the William Evans in Ystradyfodwg. Dan's brother William is in Letterston in 1881, enumerated as a Greenwich pensioner. Some of Dan's brothers move to the Aberdare area, but don't have a stray nephew James with them.

Can't see a Thomas James birth reg at the right time. There's one in sept qtr 1868, but he should be 2 at the time of the 1871 census & there are possibilities on the census for him.

[Warrick089]

Thanks again for your reply and I'm beginning to think that I'm on a wild goose chase and that I've got the wrong James and Catherine.  The only facts I am really certain of are that their children were William David abt. 1896, Daniel James abt 1894, Maria abt. 1892, Edward Trevor abt. 1899 and my grandfather Redvers Frederick Buller Evans born 1900.  I can find them on various census, last (1911 census) 11 Parc Terrace Senghenydd.  After trolling through the millions of records I'm beginning to think that I have the wrong marriage and that has sent me in the wrong direction.  Very frustrating. Regards Pamela