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Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« on: Saturday 18 September 10 09:42 BST (UK) »
Hi there
On a relative's army discharge papers, his place of birth is listed as Caclbenire, Banffshire. I have tried searching on ScotlandsPlaces and have come up with nothing so far. Does it ring any bells with anyone?
Thanks,
Louisa
Researching the following names in the Northeast of Scotland:
ANDERSON, BEATTIE, BREBNER, EMSLIE, FULLERTON, GARVIE, GIBB, LEDINGHAM, MAITLAND, MORRISON, REID, REIDFORD, SPRING, STRATTON, TRAIL, WINTON

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 18 September 10 10:02 BST (UK) »
It looks like a mistranscription actually...are you able to post an image of the place name on his papers (assuming it's handwritten)?

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 18 September 10 10:33 BST (UK) »
I couldn't crop it so I ended up taking a picture of the section concerned (I hope it's still clear)

Thanks,
Louisa
Researching the following names in the Northeast of Scotland:
ANDERSON, BEATTIE, BREBNER, EMSLIE, FULLERTON, GARVIE, GIBB, LEDINGHAM, MAITLAND, MORRISON, REID, REIDFORD, SPRING, STRATTON, TRAIL, WINTON

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 18 September 10 11:39 BST (UK) »
Goodness, that's very strange isn't it? Seems to be written fairly clearly - although I think the second last letter might not be "r" as I can see an "r" in the previous column and it's written differently.  Having said that, I can't find anything in the Genuki gazetteer that would fit!

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Gazetteer/



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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 18 September 10 12:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Louisa and Pru

Closest I can see on the 1841/1851 census is Culbirnie, in the parish of Banff, Banffshire. Can't easily see it in later censuses. What date were the discharge papers?

Monica  :)

Added: Still there! Coming up also in 1891. Must be the way earlier census have transcribed the name.
Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 18 September 10 20:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica :)

That seems to fit with information I just received from another source. I have also double-checked and found Culbirnie on ScotlandsPlaces just south of Boyndie, Banffshire.

http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=NAS&id=RHP31429

James was discharged in 1818 and I have just found out he may have settled in Somerset (leaving an unmarried partner and two children in Kincardineshire!)

Thanks to you and Pru for helping me get to the bottom of this.

Louisa :)
Researching the following names in the Northeast of Scotland:
ANDERSON, BEATTIE, BREBNER, EMSLIE, FULLERTON, GARVIE, GIBB, LEDINGHAM, MAITLAND, MORRISON, REID, REIDFORD, SPRING, STRATTON, TRAIL, WINTON

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 September 10 11:54 BST (UK) »
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 September 10 16:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks Forfarian

That's good to know. I haven't used that website before.

Louisa :)
Researching the following names in the Northeast of Scotland:
ANDERSON, BEATTIE, BREBNER, EMSLIE, FULLERTON, GARVIE, GIBB, LEDINGHAM, MAITLAND, MORRISON, REID, REIDFORD, SPRING, STRATTON, TRAIL, WINTON

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Re: Caclbenire(?) Banffshire - anyone heard of this place?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 November 10 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Go to <geograph.org.uk>
filter for Banffshire
insert Culbirnie in Search box
get views 62 & 63