Offer: Derbyshire Parish records

[Haff]

Derek,
many thanks for swift reply.
Regarding witnesses at the wedding, i wonder if William was Janes brother (born c 1836?); would the Mary have been Janes mother or possibly relative as lots of Maskreys in the area?

Re Elizabeth Asling, sad that she was widow in 1841 with Arthur. Was he really 12 in 1841 as I thought he was born c 1839. I beleive Elizabeth may have been from Nottingham so maybe she moved abck"home" after Williams death?

Any further info re Williams death etc greatly appreciated.
Thanks again

Haff

[Derbysderek]

Sorry..typo..........all three on 1841..Elizabeth a widow in 1851..with Arthur 12...............mea culpa!!
I think your other suggestions are entirely accurate.

WILLIAM ASLING..death registered at Derby last quarter 1849

Derek

[Haff]

Derek,
Thanks for info on Williams death and all earlier info.
Greatly appreciated.
Haff

[dickymintuk]

Dear Derek
Please if you have a chance can you look at my enquiry to you of the 25th November 2012. In particular I am trying to find Aaron Ferneley (Fearneley). I have info on his son Thomas Ferneley and the rest of the family but not Aaron or his wife Lucy Ferneley. I know he became bankrupt after running a grocers shop in Manchester on 13.10.1817 and he was dead by 1843. He had a son Thomas Ferneley my 2 times greatgrandfather  and a daughter Lucy Ferneley who married a George Davis at Manchester Cathedral 26.01.1843.My family tree is on Ancestry under James Richards 18 and it can be easily accessed.Any help on Aaron Ferneley who may have come from Derbyshire would be appreciated. Regards James David Richards

[Derbysderek]

I'm afraid i have very little to offer about Aaron Ferneley..........whatmakes you think he may have come from Derbyshire?.........The only two Derbyshire possibilities are as follows:

on the basis that he married Lucy Lovelock 13.08.1810..and she may have been born 1787..we can assume he was of a similar age....there is a Non0conformist baptism for Aaron Ferneley 06.11.1785 at Marple Independent Baptist.....son of John......

The other depends on the practice of adult Baptism (if he married in 1810)..and is basically flying a kite!!

Aaron Ferneley BAPTISED(not born) at Mellor 06.09.1807 son of James and Mary...........grabbing at straws!!

The problem is that he was dead by 1841,so we're going to get nothing from the Census..and he could have been born anywhere......more likely London than Derbyshire methinks.

[Haff]

Derek,
just wondered if there was any information on the marriage/births/baptisms of John Maskrey (born c 1807) and Mary (born c 1812); parents of Jane Maskrey born 1838.

thanks

Haff

[Derbysderek]

well.we're getting into very rarified atmosphere here..............but my best bet..........and I always stress that if I am not sure.......is as follows...........

JOHN MASKERY baptised 28.04.1807
ALICE MASKERY baptised 29.06.1809........both at Derby...children of CHARLES MASKERY and MARTHA nee HARRISON..who were married 13.04.1802 at Wirksworth............Charles Maskery baptised Wirksworth 14.03.1784 son of John and Hannah nee Greatorex..............is a very reasonable line...........but I wouldn't put my mortgage on it.........offered to you strictly on the basis of possibility..not even probability........unless something clicks with your own information.......

Derek.

[Haff]

Derek,
thanks for the info; I appreciate caveats and will see if it links in with other info.
Based upon 1851 census, there were 6 children living with John and Mary including Mary and her older brother, born c1836.
My guess is that John and Mary married in early 1830's - is there any info on their marriage that indicates Mary's maiden name?

thanks again

Haff

[Dizzifish]

Hi, Haff & Derek...   

Re Haff's request for information on post 86 for birth and marriage information for John Maskrey born c 1807....

I was interested in Derek's answer "JOHN MASKERY baptised 28.04.1807
ALICE MASKERY baptised 29.06.1809........both at Derby...children of CHARLES MASKERY and MARTHA nee HARRISON..who were married 13.04.1802 at Wirksworth".

I thought that's interesting and wondered if we might have a distant connection as our Gt-Grandfather's half sister married a Maskrey who's line is from Wirksworth.....

Not sure why Derek thinks John Maskrey who was in Shirley was baptised at Wirksworth..... as on the 1851 census John says he is from Shirley.

Baptism at Shirley
John MASCREY - born & baptised same day? 11th Jan 1807 - parents William & Mary

Marriage at Shirley -  21st May 1832
John MASKREY & Mary ADAMS

I think that John's parents were William Maskrey & Mary Slater - 1st May 1805,St. Werburghs, Derby...... but that needs a bit more work to prove that.

I think Mary Adams is a bit more straight forward....

Baptism at Shirley - 30th June 1811
Mary ADAMS - parents = Berresford & Jane ADAMS

There was also a son Berresford  Adams - 3rd July 1808

Pallot's Marriage index & Boyds index have Beresford Adams marrying Jane Hurt at Longford, Derbyshire in 1805.... but I can't see it on the IGI.

1841 = Piece182 /Book/Folio: 3/7 Page 8 - Shirley, Derbyshire
ADAMS, Berisford, aged 60      
ADAMS, Jane, aged 55
ADAMS, Jane, aged 24   
ADAMS, Elizabeth, aged 20    - - - all born in county

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1851 = Piece 2146/ Folio 90/ Page 9 -  Derby Lane, Shirley, Derbyshire.

Berresford ADAMS, Head, Widower, aged 73 - Labourer   born Thorpe, Derbyshire      
Samuel  NORMANSHAW, Son, Married - aged 23 - Ag Labourer    - born Middleton, Derbyshire      
Jane NORMANSHAW,   Daughter - Married, aged 23 - born Shirley, Derbyshire      
Elizabeth NORMANSHAW - Grand Daughter, 0 (2 MOS),born Shirley, Derbyshire      
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JANE ADAMS & Samuel NORMANSHAW  - 16 May 1850 -  Shirley, Derbyshire, England

Jane Adams died 1846
Beresford Adams died 1859
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