William Woodcock (Barnsley, b. 1841)

[Bill Hall]

I have traced my wife's family back to the aformentioned William Woodcock, who is the one who married Hannah Horbury in 1861.
He seems to be living with his unmarried aunt, Martha Hazle, in 1851 and 1861 (along with her other nephew, ?James Wermell? and her niece Sarah Bell)
There is a marriage on the LDS site of William Woodcock and Anne Hazle in 1823.
Is there any way to confirm that they are William Woodcock's parents?
I could not find a birth record on LDS for him.
I have sorted Sarah Bell back to her grandmother, Mary Hazle (Anne and Martha's sister?).
No such luck with James Wermell, in fact no luck at all with him.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Bill Hall

[jacquelineve]

Hello Bill
             The only sure way to find Wlm's fathers name is to buy marr.cert.or if you know which church he +Hannah were wed,
to look at parish reg.entry.
Are Wlm+Hannah living at Baker St.Barnsley in 1871 cens,with children-Jane-Elizb.-Hannah-Sarah Ann-James?
Living next door is a James Woodcock age 50 chimney sweep+wife +children

Jackie

[Bill Hall]

Dear Jackie
Thank you for your astonishingly quick reply.
Yes, that is the right family. John Willey Mountford Woodcock arrives on the scene in 1875.
I may have the answer, in which case I apologise for your wasted efforts.
In 1841 there is an Elizabeth Woodcock (aged 15 but was actually born in 1824) on her own with a 6 mth old baby, William Woodcock (oh dear!). There is a 65 year old Elizabeth Woodcock in the same street (?grandma). Her immediate neighbour is Martha Hinzel (probably aunt Martha again!)
Methinks something has happened to William and Anne as their other daughter Sarah (aged 15) is living on her own in a weaving house by the look of it. I can't find them on any census at all.
Thank goodness for Aunty Martha, she seems to have devoted her life to looking after other people's kids.
Incidently Sarah Bell seems to have been orphaned by the age of 3.
I will keep digging.
Thanks again for your efforts.
Bill

[jacquelineve]

Hello again Bill

    Is it the same William in 1881 census,who is now a chimney sweep? Baker St.Barnsley.If so, and you are'nt sure who his
parents were,it may be worth taking a look at his next door neighbour in 1871 census.

Jackie

[Ebch]

Addresses of Wm Woodcock - Gas Nook 1841 - Court 2 Heelis St 1851 - Baker St, Barnsley 1871 & 1881 were all within 2 to 3 hundred yards of each other.

William Woodcock went from being a miner in 1861 to a chimney sweep in 1881. 

James Woodcock next door was a Master Chimney Sweep in 1851 to 1871 Census at 27 Baker Street.   Was William related or did he buy out James' business? William's son James appears to continue the business in 1901 at 25 Baker Street.

[Bill Hall]

Hello EBCH
It is interesting that WW lived next to JW and they "swapped" sweep jobs.
They MUST be from the same family but I haven't tied things together yet.
Do you want me to let you know what I find?
I think I have solved WW's genealogy.
William and Anne (nee Hazle) were married in Barnsley in 1823. They MUST be related as Martha Hazle is down as WW's aunt in the 1851 census.
I believe WW was born illegitimately to their daughter Elizabeth. She and WW were living with Martha Hazle in 1841.
I have WW (senior) as being the son of Joseph W and Sarah Burgan.
Thanks again for your input.
Bill

[Ebch]

Yes please Bill.  I too wondered if 16yr old Elizabeth was the mother.