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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 19 September 10 09:29 BST (UK) »
hi Mo,i'm not sure how the cost of gunpowder comes in to it,but a hewer bought the gunpowder from the coal company so the cost was probably deducted from his wages.

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 September 10 14:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone.  :)

Looks as if he had his accident between 1881 and 1891 as he was a coal miner before he was a lampman.

Maybe he saved up a weekly disablement payment while working as a lamp man and then bought the shop.

Who knows :-\

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 02 September 11 08:17 BST (UK) »
Hi Mo we have a Connection my grandfather George Henry Bullen also had roots in Stow Bedon , I have looked at your family on many occasions and I have a theory, (NOT YET PROVEN) however if you look at the family as a whole, many if not all of them gained money around the same time, Dan had enough money to become a tenant farmer, other members bought shops etc, including your own family, my mother told me how my grandfather inherited a farm, however he was cheated out of his inheritance by another family member.  My theory is did the family inherit money from someone,????.
Back to your question, how much was the payout for an injury and could it buy a shop, I suppose it all depends on the price of shops compared to the price paid out. I think your Bullen’s went on to buy more than one shop going off memory only here I remember a grocery store too.
As for my grandfather, after a long military history taking part in many campaigns he returned to the Durham mines only to die in a mining accident at Lambton D pit, as did his uncle and his cousin.
My grandmother bought a small holding and a pony and trap with his compensation and the family were fairly well provided for until my grandmother remarried. From then on their standards went downhill as her new husband spent all he could on drink. Eventually the small holding had to be sold off, likewise the pony and trap. She died shortly after, and my mother and her sister were young and were left as orphans, they both went into service at a local hospital, and then during the 2nd world war both served in the NAAFI.
I hope this helps Mo best regards Ashley
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 02 September 11 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Mo we have a Connection my grandfather George Henry Bullen also had roots in Stow Bedon , I have looked at your family on many occasions and I have a theory, (NOT YET PROVEN) however if you look at the family as a whole, many if not all of them gained money around the same time, Dan had enough money to become a tenant farmer, other members bought shops etc, including your own family, my mother told me how my grandfather inherited a farm, however he was cheated out of his inheritance by another family member.  My theory is did the family inherit money from someone,????.
Back to your question, how much was the payout for an injury and could it buy a shop, I suppose it all depends on the price of shops compared to the price paid out. I think your Bullen’s went on to buy more than one shop going off memory only here I remember a grocery store too.
As for my grandfather, after a long military history taking part in many campaigns he returned to the Durham mines only to die in a mining accident at Lambton D pit, as did his uncle and his cousin.
My grandmother bought a small holding and a pony and trap with his compensation and the family were fairly well provided for until my grandmother remarried. From then on their standards went downhill as her new husband spent all he could on drink. Eventually the small holding had to be sold off, likewise the pony and trap. She died shortly after, and my mother and her sister were young and were left as orphans, they both went into service at a local hospital, and then during the 2nd world war both served in the NAAFI.
I hope this helps Mo best regards Ashley


Hi Ashley

Lovely to hear from you.  I'll contact you next week as I have some questons.   My daughter is getting married at the weekend and my brain has gone to mush.

Mo



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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 September 11 07:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Mo OK and thanks good luck with the wedding our last at home got married in June so I know where you are mind only for the big day. All our best Ashley
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

I've got my head on straight now ;D

Down to business.

Who was your grandfather's (George Henry Bullen) Uncle?  I thought it was Charles who adopted him, i.e. Henry James Bullen's (1820) brother James' (1815) son B:1849 who married Dorothy Leadbeater (not to be confused with Henry James Bullen's (1820) son also Charles who was also born 1849).

However, you say he was called George ??? Bullen ? Edward.   Who was he??

You also mention North Carolina.  I do know that Benjamin Simon Bullen's son Charles (B: 1894) moved there.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi again

Forgot about your original post. 

As far as I was aware it was only George Bullen (my great great grandfather) who had a Fruiters shop in 11 Blind Lane Terrace, Silksworth.  We were always told it was bought from compensation following a pit accident.   Hadn't heard of any other inheritance.  The shop was taken over by his daughter Sarah and her husband David Parker and the family ran it until it closed.  I hadn't heard of any other shops.  However, the Parkers, i.e. a son of Sarah and David) had a grocery shop in Silksworth. :-\

I've just noticed you say that your grandfather was George Henry Bullen. Did you mean great grandfather?  I know you are not that old, just a bairn like me ;D

Mo   

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Ha ha ha Flattery will get you everywhere, George Henry was my grandfather , as to the shops I remember going through some documents at Sunderland Town Centre Library and discovering other shops somewhere or other. I will look through some of my early stuff and see if I can find them. I think your Stow Bedon ancestors and my great grandmother were cousins. If I remember correct, I must look up our connection again my memories going must be my age hi hi all my best hope the wedding went well, Ashley
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 07 September 11 22:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Ashley

My direct descendants are Simon Bullen = Mary Faux, Henry James Bullen = Sarah Peck, George Bullen (your great grandmother Frances' brother) = Agnes Forsyth.  Their children Eleanor b: Oct 1876, Sarah Jane (my great grandmother) b: March 1878 D: 20.4.1952, Henry B: 20.8.1879 D: 18.4.1881, Thomas B: 17.11.1880 D: 23.2.1881, Alexander B: 26.4.1884 D: 27.5.1885, Ann B: 21.5.1886 D: 22.12.1888, Annie B: 29.7.1889, George Herbert B: 3.2.1894 D: 9.3.1970.

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