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Re: Copy of confirmation of arms
« Reply #18 on: Friday 17 September 10 00:31 BST (UK) »

... it's getting too complicated on this thread. ...

With all due respects Hallmark, you're not making it easy.

Dara.




In Post 3 I posted

 " if your g/g/g/g/g.father was granted Arms, and you can prove your direct lineage back to him you can then get this confirmed, you would then also get a copy of confirmation which confirms you are a direct descendant .

So, I'm asking if anyone knows the amount of detail contained within the Copy of Confirmation!"

It's an easy enough and straight question. I never asked about a grant of Arms, I asked about the copy of confirmation which confirms you are a direct descendant .

Am sorry I even asked! What's on NLI is the same as what I asked!



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Re: Copy of confirmation of arms
« Reply #19 on: Friday 17 September 10 00:34 BST (UK) »
There's no point in getting annoyed with us when we've been trying to help. As I've said several times, contact National Library for details of what is included.
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Re: Copy of confirmation of arms
« Reply #20 on: Friday 17 September 10 10:08 BST (UK) »
If you look through the other entries in your source you will see that many of them specifically mention that a pedigree, a tree or a reproduction of the coat of arms is included.

I would thus expect that if nothing else is listed all you will get is a formal description of the coat of arms (the blazon), the  identification of the person to whom they were granted and possibly the person to whom it was originally granted.  If there are difference between these two coats of arms then these difference will be formally described in the same terms as the blazon.

Colleges of Arms were in general only interested in pedigrees to the extent that they were used to prove entitlement to an earlier coat of arms.  They frequently resorted to imposing differences to the shield and crest if they had any doubts about the entitlement rather than carrying out more detailed investigations.

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Re: Copy of confirmation of arms
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 19 September 10 00:12 BST (UK) »
Thanks David, am back to 1750 with this line and with records running out it would at least give me a target to aim for, namely the original grantee (hopefully).

Unfortunately nothing else is listed, no mention of pedigree etc. so looks like I'm possibly not going to get one but can live with the formal description of the coat of arms, the  identification of the person to whom they were granted and possibly the person to whom it was originally granted which is the bit I need.

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