Copy of confirmation of arms

[hallmark]

COMPLETED.

[CBGenealogy]

Yes, it's the original person I'm trying to get to but am still wondering what would be on the manuscript in the Library. You have yours from the past to present times, I'm just trying to find out if this manuscript would contain lineage from present back in time to the original grantee.

If I knew who it was originally granted to then I wouldn't need it, which is why I'm asking if anyone knows what would be on the Copy of Confirmation of Arms granted to...., son of...  would it name the grantee??

or has anyone experience of this please?

Incorrect actually - I have one that I obtained belonging to a different family last year for a college project.  I repeat it does not have any lineage on it.

[hallmark]

You were starting from the opposite end to me. You had the original.


I have the person in the present time who found he was related to someone centuries ago and he was able to prove it. This is what was confirmed. The confirmation is in the NLI.


What I am still trying to find out is; Will the confirmation given in 1960 say that he is indeed related to the person of the 15th century and show the lineage back from 1960 to the 15th century and then I can get the name of the person from 15th century.


The question is;   Would the line back from present time to the person in the 15th century be given on the confirmation given to the person in 1960?

[aghadowey]

It sounds as though you are trying to locate a document to see what information is on it? (hopefully a lineage with lots of family details). Is this something you've found in National Library catalogue? If so, it would make sense to contact them (if you can't go in person) to ask them to clarify what details might be in this document. 

[hallmark]

Yes, I was trying to find out what details would be on a document which confirmed someone's lineage back in time to someone granted licence to bear arms centuries ago.

I can't make it any clearer than this;

In the 1960s a man walked into the NLI and said "I'm a direct descendant of someone born in the 15th century who was granted licence to bear arms and I can prove it!"

A Researcher from the library was called in to check if this was true.

All documentation was produced and after being researched it was proven that this man was indeed related to the person from 15th century and confirmation was given which showed the evidence as being true.

The library researcher then says to the man in 1960s "I can indeed confirm you are related to this person from 15th century and here is your confirmation!"

A copy of this confirmation exists in the library and I'm just wondering if anyone would know how detailed it would be.



The question is;   Would the line back from present time to the person in the 15th century be given?

Reckon the NLI would be the best place to go but it was unavailable when I was there as it was being worked on.

I'm simply trying to find out what would be on the confirmation from 1960.

I know if I got the original from centuries ago there would be very little on it, but I'm trying to find out who the original person was. This man in 1960 proved his connection to whoever it was, I can prove my connection to the man in 1960's and I'm simply trying to find out how detailed the confirmation given to the man in 1960's would be.

Will try NLI as it's getting too complicated on this thread. It's a simple enough question but no one seem to know, so I'll mark it completed. Can you move it to completed threads please?

Thanks.

[hallmark]

http://sources.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=Confirmation+of+Arms&type=AllFields&submit=FIND  shows exactly what I was trying to find out about namely "Copy of Confirmation of Arms...." and what would be in them.

[aghadowey]

If you had posted that link at the start we might have understood this is better. Suggest you contact National Library to see if they can explain.

[Oaks and Acorns]

... it's getting too complicated on this thread. ...

With all due respects Hallmark, you're not making it easy.

Dara.

[hallmark]

They use the same words as me. "Copy of confirmation of Arms...."