Author Topic: Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork  (Read 10649 times)

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Re: Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 June 13 16:18 BST (UK) »
I now have a reply from the Sisters of Mercy Archivist. They tell me that David Hutton was admitted to St Joseph's Industrial School (for juniors) at Passage West on 10th July 1900 and left on 22nd June 1904 to transfer to Greenmount Industrial School (for seniors) run by the Presentation Brothers. I have emailed the Presentation Brothers and unfortunately their archivist is away for 6 weeks so no info from there until the end of July probably.

Reading a pdf file about the school at Greenmount the following statement by the then Bishop of Cork says:

"The object of this institution is to take from the streets poor boys who are on the way to
perdition, to rescue them from vice and misery, and to save the community at large from
the consequences of allowing them to grow up ... untrained, steeped in misery, and with
no means of support save what they can obtain by depredations on the community."


Having seen his mother's prison records, that statement seems to have been made for David Hutton!

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Re: Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork
« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 July 13 04:26 BST (UK) »
hi all, am hoping you can assist am tryibg to contact the sisters if mercy for possible records of my grandfather.i saw there was a mention of an email address for their archives and i was hopeful that you nay be able to share this with me? thanks heaps!

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Re: Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork
« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 July 13 06:53 BST (UK) »
Here is their web site:

http://www.sistersofmercy.ie/

At the bottom right hand corner is a "Contact us" link. Clicking on it leads to both their snail mail and email addresses.

Best of luck.

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Re: Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 27 July 13 13:41 BST (UK) »
I have now received a couple of documents from the arcchivist at The Presentation Brothers regarding David Hutton at the Greenmount Industrial School for boys (seniors).

Here is a copy (with her kind permission) of the report that my wife placed on the Genealogists Forum:

In June 1904 aged 9 years and 2 months, David Hutton was admitted to Greenmount Industrial School following four years at Passage West Industrial School. He was 4'4" and stout (!), fair with blue eyes - previous character good and four years of reports from the Greenmount school all stated "A good boy". Educational standard on entry - Reads and writes to 2nd standard. Can add and subtract.

His parents are recorded as John and (blank) Hutton and the box asking illegitimate states No! ('Parents' should read David and Margaret) Address, Aunt, Nora Cunningham, 5 Rope Walk Cork.

His aunt, Nora Cunningham, was one of the people who gave evidence about his circumstances at the original hearing in 1900. The result of the hearing was that David be ordered to be detained from 2nd July 1900 until 29th April 1911 (his 16th birthday) and at that time he had been charged with "Lodging with common or reputed prostitutes and in houses frequented by prostitutes for the purpose of prostitution".

In fact he was released on licence to a Mrs P J Murphy at Killumney (she was a farmer) in Dec 1910.

There is a note on the bottom of the form stating that "He called in May '17. In RFA Fought and wounded".

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So, we found that all very interesting, especially the bit about him calling back to the school in 1917. We are going to have another look at his letters to see if any of his numerous hospital visits might have been due to a wound rather than the bronchitis we thought he was being treated for!!