Birth/Baptism - John Hamilton - Cork

[silverpulser]

PM - Those Ancestry links point to a cousin of mine that lives in Canada.  I originally bought that birth certificate for John Hamilton of Droum before I subsequently found out that he died in 1917. Unfortunately my cousin has never amended his tree!

The idea about sending a copy of his letter to the newspapers is a good one and I will do that today, with a copy of his photo as a young man (see original post) for good measure. Thanks for the links; most useful.

[silverpulser]

After 25 years of searching it is beginning to look as if finding him is near.

My wife found a criminal record which showed he had given his address as 96 Horgans Buildings, Magazine Road, Cork, Ireland. Also found in the WW1 Pensions service records was a John Hamilton (David Hutton). Examination of that file showed that he had originally joined the army under the name of David Hutton, been discharged (bad behaviour) and re-enlisted later under the alias of John Hamilton. In one of the entries it shows his mother as Margaret Hutton and on another it shows his address as 96 Horgans Buildings, Cork. So, there is an entry for a birth of a David Hutton in 1895 Q2 Cork which I have applied to the GRO Dublin for a photocopy (much cheaper at 4 euros). Meanwhile a divorce in Dundee was found in the Dundee Courier showing a David Hutton petitioning against Margaret Hutton or Scannell now residing at 36 College Road, Cork (Horgans Buildings back onto College Road). David Hutton had married Margaret Scannell 30 June 1891 in Dundee after meeting her in Cork and bringing her back to Dundee to marry.
The research was carried out by both my wife and the good helpers at the Genealogists Forum and can be seen here:

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=17548&page=2

There is quite a lot there to read but all good stuff.

[silverpulser]

Now we know that we are looking for a David Hutton b1895 I have found him on the Irish 1901 census at the Passage West Boarding School Institution Cork in Main St.

Shona from Genealogists Forum comments:

"..The place was the St Joseph's industrial school for boys, run by the Sisters of Mercy, in Passage West, Cork. As with many of these places, it is listed as one where children were abused and tortured.

A book, A Passage in Time - History of Passage West, includes information on the school.

I wonder if there are records?.."

Unfortunately no such luck in finding him in the 1911 census. He joined the army in June 1911 but I don't know where he was before that.

[dathai]

i recently got records of an ancestor who was in a convent in dublin 1901 run by sisters of mercy ,their archives are held in limerick as far as i can recall,unfortunately at time of writing another family member has a loan of the correspondance, but my initial starting point was to google sisters of mercy archives to find who to write to and they duly obliged but some info is still held under freedom of information act and i appealed this but was still turned down. i got mothers name etc.and reason for being sent there ''begging age 11''

[dathai]

Mercy Archives ;;Marianne Cosgrave,Congregational Archivist,Carherine Mcauley Centre, 23 Herbert St, Dublin 2. Sent P M with email address.

[dathai]

as i have said before i am not great on the computer so cant provide the link, but what do you think of this guy on 1911 census david sutton age 16 farm servant born dublin. no birth recorded for him at family search not on 1901 census either ,viewing the census form the s is border line with h may be one of our more esteemed colleagues could throw some light on this. also with all the rest of the hookery that went on maybe he told head of household he was born dublin. if it is him he is most likelyworking on licence from st josephs till he's 18 may have bunked off early to join army. one of my great uncles was in Artane and was released at age 16 on licence to work for a farmer in Dublin he reappeared on the 1911 census at home in wexford

[annclare]

Dathai

Had a look at that census and I agree it is David Hutton
Here is the link
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001816733/
Should have given the link to the townland also

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Kilbonane/Kilcrea/374087/
Regards
annclare

[silverpulser]

Had a close look at that entry and I am pretty certain that it is Hutton. It really shows up when you zoom in. Thanks for that. Farm servant fits in with what he stated on his Attestation when joining the army. His mother, Margaret Hutton nee Scannell, lived in Dublin for a while, though she was born in Cork, so maybe that was the reason the head of house gave his place of birth as Dublin.

[silverpulser]

Update.

I have now received the birth certificates for David Hutton and his mother Margaret Scannell, both born in Cork City.

I have also received a reply to an enquiry to the Sisters of Mercy who say:

"..I wish to acknowledge receipt of your enquiry regarding records we may hold relating to the placement of your grandfather David Hutton in St Joseph’s Industrial School, Passage West, Co Cork.

St Joseph’s Industrial School was run by the Sisters of Mercy and Mercy Congregational Archives holds the surviving records of the school.

We will search the school archive for any information relating to your grandfather and revert when this is complete..."

So, it looks hopeful that some information on his early childhood years may be forthcoming. I'll let you know as soon as I have any more information.