Gradwell, Great Warford, Non Conformist records?

[Maisymum]

Hello, I'm trying to locate a record of a possible marriage between John Gradwell and Martha from Great Warford, Alderley some time around 1838 - 1841. They don't appear in Cheshire BMD and I'm wondering if it's because they may have married in a non conformist chapel as later generations married at Cheadle Congregationalist Chapel, Stockport. Any suggestions as to how I may find out?

[CaroleW]

What about the one on freebmd in Stockport 1839? Only problem is that there are 2 possible Martha's on the same page but Cheshire BMD shows Martha Read

[mshrmh]

Hello, I'm trying to locate a record of a possible marriage between John Gradwell and Martha from Great Warford, Alderley some time around 1838 - 1841. They don't appear in Cheshire BMD and I'm wondering if it's because they may have married in a non conformist chapel as later generations married at Cheadle Congregationalist Chapel, Stockport. Any suggestions as to how I may find out?

CheshireBMD has a note "Until 1898 only Church of England, Jewish and Quaker places of worship were entitled to maintain their own marriage registers. All other non-conformist and Roman Catholic marriages had to be conducted in the presence of a registrar, and are therefore listed as 'Civil Marriages', together with all those conducted at the local register office. After 1898 non-conformist and Roman Catholic churches were allowed to keep their own registers and celebrate their own marriages, and so from that date the records for marriage are much more fragmented. "
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/marriageinfo.php

The marriage that CaroleW has identified is at Cheadle St Marys so looks plausible.

[Maisymum]

Thanks so much for that, I'll look into it.  John and Martha are listed in the 1841 census with their first child so I was taking a bit of a guess at their wedding date.

[Maisymum]

Using records at the Cheshire Family History research centre at Alderley Edge I was able to get a copy of the record of John and Martha's wedding at St Mary's Cheadle, and even better, also found the record of Alexander Gradwell (John's father) and Charlotte Lowndes' wedding in 1813 and Robert Gradwell/Gratwell (Alexander's father) to Martha Jennings in 1789, both at St Mary's church, Alderley, plus a host of baptisms, great for cross-referencing.  This resulted in us finding Alexander and Charlotte's grave at St Mary's, hidden under a carpet of yew tree needles.  Thanks for your help, which put me on the right track to discover all this.  We are now trying to find some record of Robert's baptism as there are no earlier references to Gradwells at Alderley, suggesting that Robert came from outside the area and settled there.

[CaroleW]

Hi

What a great result - thanks so much for posting details and I hope you have some luck with Robert

[mshrmh]

Maisymum - thanks for letting us know the outcome - good to hear of your success.