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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #198 on: Friday 08 October 10 11:57 BST (UK) »
That's very useful, Mongibello. Thanks for putting it up. I wasn't quite sure how Miss Harriet Lea was related...looks like she and Nat were 2nd cousins.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #199 on: Friday 08 October 10 12:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info about the Swiss Giantess Carole, and Mongibello, your diagram makes it easy to see the relationships. I always have to work with a diagram otherwise I get terribly muddled.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #200 on: Friday 08 October 10 12:43 BST (UK) »
I went to visit a colleague today who told me to get off at the Glenwood Gardens stop near Gants Hill. This rang a bell and I realised it was the road in which Henry Bryceson (NB's youngest son and my 2x great grandfather) died in 1950. For some reason I had not been to see the house before but did so today! All this was on top of the wonderful memorial walk yesterday to Harrow on the Hill!

Steven did you take any photos of the house? I'd love to see one.  ;)

Can you tell us a bit more about the walk? How many turned up? (Did you make it Mongibello?) How long did it take? Do you have any photos you can share?

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #201 on: Saturday 09 October 10 04:08 BST (UK) »
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Ann Fox!
45 today;D

I hope you and Nathaniel had a pleasant evening.  ;)


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #202 on: Saturday 09 October 10 05:17 BST (UK) »
Yes, Happy Birthday Ann Fox ...

And, my dear Ann, by the way, if you spot Harriet King or her parents or if you know of any connection to the King & Lee pawnbrokers of 5 Mary St ... please let me know ...  Harriet was 16 and an orphan (d of John and Harriet) and a native of London when she emigrated in 1849 to NSW on the ship Diana ...   ;) ... Ann, could you please share that knowledge with Nathaniel, and make sure he writes it up in his Diary ..

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #203 on: Saturday 09 October 10 11:06 BST (UK) »
Happy Birthday Ann, indeed - you know, I may be a bit slow...but it just dawned on me that by Nat writing her birthday as he did...shows that he KNEW exactly how old Ann was.

So what exactly was he playing at?  The fact that he marries a girl closer to his age, surely shows that he doesn't have a preference for older women...was this how things were done in those days?  I am beginning to think that Ann Fox was a widow, but I guess we'll never know  :'(

He's been with her for at least 10 months now...possibly a lot longer...their relationship is so intriguing!
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #204 on: Saturday 09 October 10 14:21 BST (UK) »
I love the fact that it was no secret that Nathaniel knew Ann's age and birth date and he was happy to mention this in his diary, however he used shorthand to say that he met up with her. I wish he'd gone into more detail - I wonder if he bought her a gift?  ;)

It is SO frustrating not knowing more about Ann and her relationship with Nat.  >:(

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« Reply #205 on: Saturday 09 October 10 14:57 BST (UK) »
Happy Birthday Ann  :D ...wish I had known you!

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #206 on: Sunday 10 October 10 02:45 BST (UK) »

So what exactly was he playing at?  The fact that he marries a girl closer to his age, surely shows that he doesn't have a preference for older women...


I think the fact that he married someone closer to his age may have been due to any number of reasons:

Either one or both of them deemed their relationship a little out of the ordinary - marriage may have been socially unacceptable/impractical etc. Perhaps Ann may have been unable to have children due to her age (or other reasons) hence they didn't marry. Isn't/wasn't procreation one of the main reasons for, or expect from, a marriage?. We don't know her status. Ann may have died or married someone else. 

Maybe Nathaniel thought Sarah a more suitable partner for marriage - it may not have been a conscious decison to choose a younger partner. I think age was probably irrelevant to him. However I can see Nathaniel doing the 'right' or 'conventional thing' in most aspects of his life, so it was probablay the case when it came to his choice of a marriage partner.

I like that fact that his relationship with Ann is unconventional. And I like to think that he did have a penchant for older women.  ;D

Just my thoughts ....  ;)