Author Topic: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)  (Read 52373 times)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #117 on: Saturday 25 September 10 13:34 BST (UK) »
lol at the well comment -

guys...shock horror....our water TODAY comes from a well!!!!  the modern addition, being a couple of pumps along the way to get it into our tanks.  But it is nice to know that it is pure spring water.  (Although after a heavy rainfall, can be a bit brackish!!!)
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #118 on: Sunday 26 September 10 01:49 BST (UK) »
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You might stop hankering when you scroll down to the second half of this page: http://www.makingthemodernworld.org.uk/stories/the_industrial_town/06.ST.02/?scene=3
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I would have thought this bit of the text in that link would have got in the diary :)

Such problems could occasionally be dramatically dangerous. In 1846 the river Walbrook in London, which was covered over by buildings and unventilated, harboured such a quantity of noxious gases that it exploded – producing a tidal wave of sewage that swept away three houses in nearby Clerkenwell.



I would expect a ton of coal to be about 5 cubic feet - ish. A hundredweight sack could be carried on a back.

With regard to how discussion comes from the diary.... i have learned many diverse things from the entries, looking them and other related issues up as they appear. For example, i can bore the heck out of people by telling them Victoria Station used to be a basin :)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #119 on: Sunday 26 September 10 02:29 BST (UK) »

Such problems could occasionally be dramatically dangerous. In 1846 the river Walbrook in London, which was covered over by buildings and unventilated, harboured such a quantity of noxious gases that it exploded – producing a tidal wave of sewage that swept away three houses in nearby Clerkenwell.


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Another historically interesting entry today. Nathaniel is a very widely read young lad. I wouldn't think there'd be too may 20 year olds taking an interst in such things today.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #120 on: Sunday 26 September 10 02:33 BST (UK) »

I would expect a ton of coal to be about 5 cubic feet - ish. A hundredweight sack could be carried on a back.


That doesn't make it sound quite so bad. Does anyone know how much coal is used for a real fire and how long it lasts?


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #121 on: Sunday 26 September 10 09:47 BST (UK) »
With regard to how discussion comes from the diary.... i have learned many diverse things from the entries, looking them and other related issues up as they appear. For example, i can bore the heck out of people by telling them Victoria Station used to be a basin :)

It's fascinating how the area has changed over the years.  One thing I bought recently as a result of taking more interest in Victorian London due to Nat's diary is a second hand copy of this brilliant book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Liquid-History-Thames-Through-Time/dp/0713488344

It's basically the story of the Thames from West through to East, and how it's changed over the years, but the main appeal is the beautiful photographs (one per page, reproduced in really nice quality.)  A few of them are modern photos, but the majority date from the second half of the 19th century and the first half of the last one. There's no photos of the Ecclestone Wharf area (possibly because it was on Grosvenor Canal rather than the Thames itself), but there are lots of photos of other wharfs on the river itself dating from around the same time. I know books of Victorian photos aren't particularly unusual, but this one is a bit different because it concentrates solely on the river.  And therefore the pictures give a real feel for the kind of working environment Nat would have been used to. I wish I could scan a few shots for here, but that's probably a big no-no. Also there's so many cool photos that I wouldn't know where to start. But it's well worth getting, especially if you can snag a copy on eBay for 99p (!) like I did.

Anyway one of the fascinating things for me is seeing how much the Thames Embankment through central London has drastically altered the locations beyond recognition.  Before this was built in the late 19th Century most of central London had houses and buildings going down to the edges of the Thames itself, but obviously these locations were changed beyond recognition once they built the massive embankment on either side, with vast amounts of buildings and even whole streets disappearing. And seeing photos of familiar locations from before its construction really emphasises that.

Anyway Sunday today, so I look forward to Nat's usual sex, stalking and graveyard update tomorrow :P

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #122 on: Sunday 26 September 10 12:43 BST (UK) »

Anyway Sunday today, so I look forward to Nat's usual sex, stalking and graveyard update tomorrow :P


and this is 1846 !! but so do I  :o

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #123 on: Sunday 26 September 10 15:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone

Great discussion and links ...makes me very grateful for bathrooms and toilets  8)

I found this the other day:
The Post-Office London Directory, 1829
Charles Lea, Coal merchant, Regent's Park Basin

I think this is Granny Shepard's brother and George Lea's father.

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #124 on: Monday 27 September 10 02:08 BST (UK) »
Should have expressed that better - i meant 5 x 5 x 5 feet cube  = 125 cubic feet.  :-\ - might be a little less as coal has a specific gravity of 1.5 - if it was 1 then it would be 1 metre cube for a ton. But there is the voiding (air) as its not an interlocking solid mass. Not an exact science


Regarding the london embankment, that was built by joseph bazelgette for the london sewer system, still in use today. The project and bazelgette was featured in a BBC program - i think it was called something like seven wonders of the modern world. I found it fascinating and Bazelgette was unknown to me at the time - kinda introduced him to me as an unsung Brunel.

Crossness pumping station looks amazing inside - like a cathedral of steam. Im an engineer, strange stuff interests me :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_sewerage_system



I would expect a ton of coal to be about 5 cubic feet - ish. A hundredweight sack could be carried on a back.


That doesn't make it sound quite so bad. Does anyone know how much coal is used for a real fire and how long it lasts?

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #125 on: Monday 27 September 10 03:35 BST (UK) »
Late evening here in the USA ... have just read Nat's entry ...as usual he is walking and perusing...

Nat is an interesting guy ... I have never met a 20 year old man who loves what he loves to do!!!!

Mrs S is not mentioned ...has he lost interest in her?

No mention of his mum or her illness, no mention of Granny Shepard or his cousin George Lea  ...and where is ANN FOX these days ??

I think I will be quite lost when his diary ends, especially if we have no idea of what happened to Ann .... and Mrs S.


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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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