Author Topic: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)  (Read 52267 times)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #72 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:30 BST (UK) »
Freebmd  could only come up with these for the daughter??

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #73 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:31 BST (UK) »
On the subject of the stolen skull, I visited St Pancras Old Church the other week.  It's an interesting place; was it mentioned here that at that time the person in charge of the relocation of the old graves due to the railway encroachment was no less than the novelist Thomas Hardy? (There's a plaque about it all underneath what's known as the Hardy tree.)  I have a mental image of Nat making his getaway chased by a furious Thomas Hardy, although doubtless in reality it happened while Nat was the only one there.

I have seen pictures of the Hardy Tree and I knew that the graves were relocated but I didn't know that Thomas Hardy was the man in charge.  :) I'm curious as to how he got that job - I will google ...  ;)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #74 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:36 BST (UK) »
Hmm I just googled myself, and it seems from the dates that Hardy got the job some time after Nat's little adventure (given that Hardy was born in 1840 it's not surprising.)  Shame about that, I liked the idea of the two meeting unknowingly.  I guess the churchyard must've been in a bad state for quite an extended period of time. 

It was definitely Thomas Hardy the writer though.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #75 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

 :D :D

I am sure it's misspelled ...can't find William and Sarah's marriage neither.
Unless it's the William Vandersom = Sarah Hope 1838  ::) :-\ :-\

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another one  :o
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #76 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:39 BST (UK) »
Yes it was that Thomas Hardy.  :) He was an assistant architect at the time ... sounds like an interesting job:

throughout the late autumn and early winter ... Hardy attended at the churchyard — each evening between five and six, as well as sometimes at other hours. There after nightfall, within a high hoarding that could not be overlooked, and by the light of flare-lamps, the exhumation went on continuously of the coffins that had been uncovered during the day, new coffins being provided for those that came apart in lifting, and for loose skeletons; and those that held together being carried to the new ground on board merely; Hardy supervised these mournful processions when present, with what thoughts may be imagined.

It seems he wrote a few poems which may have been influenced by this experience.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #77 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

I am sure it's misspelled ...can't find William and Sarah's marriage neither.
Unless it's the William Vandersom = Sarah Hope 1838  ::) :-\ :-\

deb


Looks possible. If I remember correctly there is only the one likely William with a surname that sounds anything like Vandercombe.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #78 on: Monday 20 September 10 14:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruskie

 :D :D

I am sure it's misspelled ...can't find William and Sarah's marriage neither.
Unless it's the William Vandersom = Sarah Hope 1838  ::) :-\ :-\

deb

ooo 5 red posts  ;D
another one  :o

Sarah Vandercom married I think in 1842 in Westminster (I've closed Freebmd down).  Of course William and Sarah could have married anywhere and anytime. 
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #79 on: Monday 20 September 10 16:43 BST (UK) »
I've just been looking over some books which have been in my possession for some years. They belonged to my great grandfather, Leo Bryceson, NB's grandson via his youngest son Henry. There is a completer set of Charles Dickins' works, a seperate book by Charles Dickins called "The Life of our Lord" given by Henry Bryceson to my Nan in 1934 and with a lovely inscription from HB and also a book called Wonders of Phycisal Science given by HB to Leo. This was in 1911 when NB was still alive. The inscription reads: "To H L Bryceson from Dad 5th January 1911 - Wishing you many happy returns of the day and trusting the perusal will add to your knowledge". As you can see, a love of books runs in the family!

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #80 on: Monday 20 September 10 18:34 BST (UK) »
The entry about the skull was dated Sunday, 2 January, 1848. It was a single quote from Nat's diary by another writer:

http://www.archive.org/stream/s11notesqueries10londuoft/s11notesqueries10londuoft_djvu.txt

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