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The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« on: Tuesday 14 September 10 05:06 BST (UK) »
September already and there are only a couple of months before the last entry in Nathaniel's Diary. What a sad day that will be.  :'(

Nathaniel hasn't been as diligent with his diary entries or as verbose lately which has been reflected in fewer posts, however we have reached another 20 pages, so I have locked Part 6 and we can continue our discussion here in Part 7.  :)

Previous posts:

Part 1:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,457330.0.html

Part 2:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,459757.0.html
On page one of Part 2 is a recap of our discoveries and a timeline.

Part 3:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,464660.0.html

Part 4:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,469736.0.html

Part 5:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,472362.0.html

Part 6:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,474726.0.html

And Nathaniel's Diary:
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/libraries/archives/victorian-clerk/


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 08:20 BST (UK) »
Out of interest I've looked up today's entry for 14th September:

Died this evening at Livermore Park, near Bury St Edmonds, the Honourable Justice Williams suddenly, in his 70th year.

I think that should be Edmunds, but I don't know if that was Nat's mistake or in the transcription ..... Anyway I wondered where he got the information from and looked in the newspapers of the day. The news first appears in several papers on the 17th - usually in a long obituary notice.

The only simple death notice I could find was in The Times of 17th September:

On the 14th inst, very suddenly at his residence Livermore Suffolk, the Hon. Mr Justice Williams,
one of the Judges on the Court of Queen's Bench



I'm assuming Nat would have added all these death entries after the event - I can't see the death of Justice Williams working its way round all of London by word of mouth on the actual day he died. Most people would only have known about it from reading the papers. Also Nat didn't repeat a death notice in his diary word for word from any newspaper report that I've seen. I wonder what his reasons were for recording the deaths of some people in his diary but not others?

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 10:03 BST (UK) »
Good morning all,
Just catching up with everything after my Mum's funeral (Stella).
She left quite a few photo's so I am sure now Steven has them he will post any more that relate to Bryceson.
I've just seen Mongibello's family tree which is great but there is 1 little mistake.......... Freda E Bryceson should read Truda E Bryceson. She is still going strong and livng in suported housing.
Thanks again for all your kind words.
I will keep reading and learning.
Love
Ruth

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 11:10 BST (UK) »
I have a confession, I like it when it goes slower! :P  I can't keep up when all the posts are flying in.

Would be good maybe if Mongibello could e-post the family tree again on this post?

Hi Ruth, am very sorry for your loss, I was off the thread for a long while, and am slowing getting back to it.  Very nice to "meet" you.  I'm sure it must be quite difficult going through all your mother's things.  I helped my mother do the same, and it's a very poignant time isn't it.

Carole...what about the Evening Herald/Standard, papers like that?  Perhaps back then it took a while for papers to print etc, but didn't the news boys shout off headlines?  Could the Judge's death have warranted that kind of attention?
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 12:16 BST (UK) »
Hi all, Mum, take a look on the Part 6 pages 19/20 for the photo I posted. A agree with others that the old lady is NB#s daughter Sarah! You beat me too it, pointing out the mistake re Freda/Truda. Lots of love, Steven.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 13:02 BST (UK) »
I have a confession, I like it when it goes slower! :P  I can't keep up when all the posts are flying in.

Would be good maybe if Mongibello could e-post the family tree again on this post?

Carole...what about the Evening Herald/Standard, papers like that?  Perhaps back then it took a while for papers to print etc, but didn't the news boys shout off headlines?  Could the Judge's death have warranted that kind of attention?

I agree Daisy - it is very difficult to keep up sometimes, though I do miss Nathaniel's really informative (and of course, personal) posts.

I also agree that it would be wonderful if Mongibello could post the tree again here.  :)

Carole it is hard to work out why Nathaniel finds certain deaths worth recording in his diary. I imagine they may be personalities who appear in the news of the day, prominent people or people Nat has a high regard for ....  :-\

Ruth, it's good to have you back after your sad time ... I hope you and the family are OK. I look forward to seeing any more relevant photos that Steven can post here. (I don't suppose there are any of Nathaniel?)

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 13:27 BST (UK) »
Daisy Loo, Who is the Lucy Mabel Atwell you mentioned? Well done for making the connections which supported my own thoughts. Peace, Steven.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 13:28 BST (UK) »
I agree late 20s is probable date of photo.

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson (Part 7)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 September 10 13:37 BST (UK) »
amd yes, looks like Sarah (NB's daughters) with her daughters Florence and Edith and Edith's husband Stan plus their son Stanley as the likely boy in the background.