Author Topic: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search  (Read 6912 times)

Offline PrueM

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,637
  • Please don't try to PM me :)
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 04:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Michelle,

If you get the death certificate you will have a date of death, and could then search in local, state and national newspapers for any reports.  The National Library has papers online, but only up to the 1950s, so you would need to go to a library to view originals and/or microfilms.

Cheers
Prue

Offline sparrett

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 18,885
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 07:17 BST (UK) »
H
And  I would like to add yet another recommendation  ;D

If , on the death certificate transcript, the husband turns out not to be ROBERT THOMAS WILLIAMS, (or she is unmarried etc.)  you should proceed to purchasing the trnascript of the marriage certificate for JEAN ELIZABETH and ROBERT THOMAS WILLIAMS.

It will give you information about the couple which may give pointers to further searching, eg parents names for JEAN, POB etc.

Sue
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Billyblue

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,066
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 December 10 13:58 GMT (UK) »
http://archives.smh.com.au/
"Jean Williams" <and> murder turns up a hit from 1962, for example.
You would have to pay for a subscription (not sure if some libraries might have access to this?) to see the full text.
I would imagine a murder/suicide would be widely reported.
Hi, I've just looked at the SMH hit from 1962 and it is a legal notice of Probate ‘in the Will of Henry Harold Stevenson late of Tamworth’
granted to Jean Williams executrix, will dated 19 July 1960
EVERINGHAM SOLOMONS  & CO, Proctors for Executrix, 9 Fitzroy Street, Tamworth, by their Agents, MARSHALL MARKS DEZARNAULDS & JONES, Solicitors, C alla Chambers, 67 Castlereagh Street, Sydney
If she died in 1962  1960  then this is not her.
Dawn M.
PS Do you know the lover's name?
Denys (France); Rossier/Rousseau (Switzerland); Montgomery (Antrim, IRL & North Sydney NSW);  Finn (Co.Carlow, IRL & NSW); Wilson (Leicestershire & NSW); Blue (Sydney NSW); Fisher & Barrago & Harrington(all Tipperary, IRL)

Offline mrwilson

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 254
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 December 10 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Given it was a murder-suicide there would have been a Coroners' Inquest.

 Look here for inquest search info...
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/archives-in-brief/archives-in-brief-4/?searchterm=coronial%20inquests
Wilson     - Manchester
Cowburn - Manchester, Canada
Beswick   - Manchester
Macmillan - Canada, USA


Offline shelby4178

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 February 11 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi!

I've have been asking questions and getting no where with the family members that apparently know what happened back then, so i'm continuing the search with you all.

Sadly, I don't know the name of her lover and wish I was more of a nosey parker and asked my Father more. I'll post if I find something and will let you know how I go.

Michelle  :)

Offline Walcha72

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 368
  • Granny Dot - my great grandmother
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 02:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

SMH Death Notices 12 March 1960

WILLIAMS, Jean Elizabeth - March 10, 1960, late of 25 Baxter Avenue, Kogarah, dearly beloved wife of Leslie, loved mother of Robert and Susanna, loved daughter of Mrs C. Wheeler, and sister of Shirley (Mrs L. Smith). aged 42 years.

Debbie
DICKSON, COWAN, ARMSTRONG, MARTIN - Roxburghshire
MITCHELL, MCCORMICK, CAMERON, CLEGG - Argyllshire
HOY - Essex, Australia
GRUNDY - Berkshire, Australia
ROPER - Hampshire, Australia
GILLIES - Aberdeenshire, Australia
BANKHEAD - Ireland?, Australia

Offline fredthompson

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 45
  • Meikle Trochry, Little Dunkeld, Scotland
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 March 11 17:05 GMT (UK) »
hi shelby
i found these 3 its on NSW BD&M
Marriage 7359/1958  WILLIAMS  ROBERT THOMAS  MIDDLETON  JEAN ELIZABETH  SYDNEY
death 80517/1970  WILLIAMS  ELIZABETH JEAN  GODFREY JAMES  IVY ISABELLA  NEWCASTLE.
i'm just going on the newcastle maitland part of your story
the only other on in the newcastle area is this on
death 80512/1973  WILLIAMS  JEAN  GEORGE HASTINGS  ALICE MARY  NEWCASTLE.
just to give you more options  ???     
McLeish, Cairns, Davis, Strang, Sturgeon, in the following areas of Scotland, fife, stirlingshire, Haddington, Also in Australia in New South Wales, Queensland and Victoria

Offline shelby4178

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 26
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Father's 1st Wife Murdered, Info Search
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 March 11 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello!

Yes this search has been rather frustrating. The marriage link is correct:

Marriage 7359/1958  WILLIAMS  ROBERT THOMAS  MIDDLETON  JEAN ELIZABETH  SYDNEY

But I do believe that she was killed in 1960 in Sydney, if my memory serves me correct. I'm unable to log into Ancestry.com at the moment, but I'm 90% sure that is right.

If only family tree tracing was easy!  :)