Sarah Agnes Moody 1868, John Moody c1843 & Alexander Moody c1807 Belfast

[Govan Fair]

If you go to http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/  and enter 'Moody', it will indicate the spread of the surname across Ireland in mid 1800s. Not too many families of the surname in Belfast area, it would seem.

Thank you so much for this ... it's a great link and helpful when I get to Proni. Much appreciated.

[cyclamen]

You may have this already.

Familysearch gives the age of Alexander Moody, Clonkeen, who died 1869 as 57 so if correct that makes his birth year c1812.

His wife, Mary died 27th October 1895. You will find an image of her will on the PRONI website. The will mentions three daughters, Margaret, Mary and Elizabeth Thompson, a son Alex who was in America, a son Hugh and a grandson Alex Thompson.

Eliza Moody, father Alexander, married Hugh Thompson, father Samuel Thompson on 21st March 1863 in Ballyscullion, Antrim, Ireland.

1901 Census shows a Margaret Moody, age given as 40, living in Clonkeen with her nephew Alexander Thompson, age given as 30.

[UnaBobby]

Hi Govan Fair

I don't really know that the Alexander Moody who died in 1861 is my Alexander Moody. I rather think he isn't (I hope not as he was murdered!).
This is what I know 100%
1) John Moody married Sarah Agnes McNeill on 18th April 1864 at the Parish Church of Lower Falls, Belfast (St Luke's) under the rites of C of England & Ireland. His profession was a Smith. His father was Alexander Moody a farmer ( IT DOESN't say deceased). One of the witnesses is Ellen Rice the other is difficult to decipher -could be Samuel or John  Murray ?
2) Baptism 28/5/1865 St Malachy's John Moody - a 24 year old protestant convert - born 1841.
3) Death. There was a lot of confusion at John's death as to his age. The death certificate says 45 at last birthday making his birth year c1842. However, the entry was corrected by his widow on production of a statutory declaration to age 43 which would then be c1844.
4) John ran a blacksmith business out of 92 Great Patrick Street & also Castle Steet
5) in 1866 he was living at 15 Hamilton Street.
6) When he died in 1887 he was living at 92 1/2 Great George's St.
7) I have a photo of him.
He is buried in the Mill Town cemetry
9) The names that John Moody used for his children were
   1) Arthur Joseph
   2) Mary Ann
   3) Sarah Agnes (This came from his wife's side of the family)
   4) Charles Robert
   5) John Michael


When I looked for his birth records the only option I came up with was John Moody son of Alexander Moody & Eliza McVicker baptised St Anne's Church of Ireland 17 April 1846. This is quite close to the 1844 that his widow attested to.

Does any of this sound familiar?

Thanks Everyone!

Una

Thank you

[UnaBobby]

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[UnaBobby]

This is John Moody b c1844 d1887

[Govan Fair]

Hello again Una

Well ... that's a different slant on things as I thought you expected that the Alexander Moody (who got murdered!) belonged to you. So that's the good news. I had a look through my papers and the Ulster Historical people printed off all the details for your John ... just as you have described him here. I listed him under 'not confirmed' as I really didn't think there was enough to go by because they didn't list the mother's name .. why I wonder? By now his mother, Eliza, would have been dead. Is that why they didn't bother? The interesting thing I think is that he converted to catholicism, as my Alexander and William both converted on or before their father's marriage to his second wife Sarah.

This needs more investigation. I'm about to join a Family History Society that allows me access to Irish records. I'll concentrate on this one and let you know how I get on.

I have to say, much as I just love the photo you've put on, I don't know that I see a family resemblance and he doesn't look too poor, whereas when Alexander and William (who may have been his brothers) came to Glasgow they were in fairly straitened circumstances I think.

Can I ask .. is Great Patrick St near to Little Patrick St? because this is where Alexander lived at the time of his marriage in 1877. Both of our Moody families do all come from Shankhill though.

If I've done it properly, I've attached some documents provided by the Ulster History people, downloaded from Ancestry Ireland. They may help. Let's see how this goes and good luck to both of us! Sandra

[UnaBobby]

So close
Great Patrick Street
Little Patrick Street
Great George's Street
All Parallel

Great George Street to Little Patrick Street is a 3 minute walk.
It's a 6 minute walk to St Anne's

I will post a map.

[UnaBobby]

The mother's name isn't shown because it's a transcription of the marriage cert (of which I have a copy - I tried to upload it but it was too big )

Una

[UnaBobby]

Do you have Alexander junior's baptism details at St Anne's?

Do you know when Alexander & William converted?

Una