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what does this occupation say??
« on: Sunday 12 September 10 15:59 BST (UK) »
Hi there, this one is from the 1851 census for Joseph Smallwood, I can see its a something... maker, but whats the something? lol

 Piece: 2023; Folio: 478; Page: 44
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: what does this occupation say??
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 12 September 10 16:01 BST (UK) »
Ladies slipper maker  ;D
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 12 September 10 16:04 BST (UK) »
Oh well done Carol!! LOL id not have guessed that in a million years!!... ty Carol lol
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: what does this occupation say??
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 12 September 10 16:04 BST (UK) »
I'd got the Slipper bit but could not work out the first word - I agree with Carole it is Ladies

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Re: what does this occupation say??
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 12 September 10 16:46 BST (UK) »
hmmm got a query here now tho lol.. I agree with Ladies slipper maker, but one thing I just found has thrown doubt lol... His son, John Smallwood(only just found him) is in the 1881 census as "Ladies Stirrup Maker"... and as its a walsall family (walsall is famous for its leather, saddlery etc...) ??

Piece: 2828; Folio: 14; Page: 22 << 1881
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: what does this occupation say??
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 12 September 10 17:06 BST (UK) »
I don't think it is Ladies Stirrup Maker. 

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Re: what does this occupation say??
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 September 10 17:21 BST (UK) »
It would be very hard to make that read as "stirrup".
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 12 September 10 17:29 BST (UK) »
There is an Iron Stirrup Maker at the previous address. If John Smallwood was a stirrup maker I don't think he would just specialise in those for women. Do women have different stirrups? Not according to http://www.britishsaddlery.co.uk/stirrups.html unless side saddle ones were different

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 12 September 10 17:40 BST (UK) »
Joseph Smallwood in 1841 is also shown as an iron stirrup maker. Stan is right, a stirrup is a stirrup. the length is adjusted by the saddlery. I suppose that a man with a very large boot would have wider stirrups.

I think the 1851 census was something the enumerator misheard.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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